Heat gun on Resos

Re: Heat Gun on Snare Reso Head

XplosiveDrummer said:
Wow. Are you trying this hard to sell off your heads because they're not selling that well? All you do around here is "recommend" or talk down about "equivalents". Give it a rest already. Matter of fact I've yet to see you reply to my question on whether you were talking about the character of other two ply heads by your company or other companies two ply heads in a thread about the Gretsch USA Custom. I know it was the latter but I wanted to see if you would man up and admit to talking trash about products from other companies.
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In fact, our heads are selling quite well. I don't believe I'm making a hard sell at all. I'm only answering the question that was asked. Many people do believe that a 10mil drumhead is the same as any other 10mil drumhead, which isn't necessarily the case.

As far as recommendations, I make them when people are asking for them or have questions regarding drumheads. Most people seem to appreciate this. I'm not trying to force product on anyone.

Unfortunately, I don't have time to read every thread on the forum. I do my best to catch conversations about drumheads, tuning, etc. as long as the thread title hints at it. I would be happy to respond to any and all questions. The best way to ensure that I see something is to PM me. If you can link me to the thread, I'm happy to jump in. I'm don't believe I've "trash-talked" other companies or their products here.

XplosiveDrummer said:
IMO the 360 collar is nothing but a marketing gimmick as having a truer bearing edge and level hoops or rims is what helps to minimize problems with tuning. The better the equipment, the better and less problematic the tuning process will be. What's funny is Remo doesn't have to have a marketer on forums to promote their heads every day or every 5 minutes, their reputation of quality and sound you get from their heads speaks for their self. Not to mention one of the most technical drummers in the world, Tomas Haake, jumping onboard with an "equivalent" recently.
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I can assure you that it's not a marketing gimmick. I would strongly recommend trying it out in person to see the fit difference in fit. Having demo'd Level 360 on the highest of high-end drums, I can definitively say that the issue of fit still occurs on the best of bearing edges.

As for my presence on this forum, I'm hear to keep my ear to the ground. I do the same thing with our Facebook page and Twitter feed. What other companies choose to do is entirely up to them, but we choose to be active where the drummers are.

XplosiveDrummer said:
Your heads are not the end all be all drum heads that are 100% flawless. I've tried a set of 360 G1's and the 12" had a kink in the head that I had to straighten out myself. The mylar actually had a wrinkle or kink in it because it wasn't molded properly. Not to mention other problems I've had with Evans. IMO you should take a breather from forcing your "recommendations" onto people. It's in bad taste and only makes Evans look desperate for consumers.
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While we have some of the highest quality standards, I can't claim that our drumheads are 100% flawless. However, I can assure you that I will do everything in my power to resolve any issues that arise with our products. I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with one of our products. I'd be happy to replace it for you.

It is disheartening to see such negative feedback to my presence here, as I make great personal effort to be available to answer questions, offer assistance, and engage in conversation about drums and drumming.
 
Evansspecialist, I think you are a great presence on the forum. Don't let one guy having a bad day influence you. I say keep doing exactly what you are doing. Awesome job buddy!
 
Re: Heat Gun on Snare Reso Head

EvansSpecialist;1191758 It is disheartening to see such negative feedback to my presence here said:
Don't be discouraged because of this thread. Its nice to have professional drummers as well as industry guys on a forum for all of us average guys to get answers and advice from. I don't use Evans heads but its good to hear thoughts etc. about drum heads from someone like you.
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I agree with Old Hyde...... I always find your input helpful....... I have recently started using Evans heads and am very happy with them....... Terry
 
Re: Heat Gun on Snare Reso Head

EvansSpecialist said:
....It is disheartening to see such negative feedback to my presence here, as I make great personal effort to be available to answer questions, offer assistance, and engage in conversation about drums and drumming.
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Your presence is more than welcomed here by many, including myself. I've never asked for a favor from you but always enjoy your insights. I only use Evans heads.
 
Your prsence here is more than welcomed and having an ear to the ground can only make for a better relationship between the drummers and the manufacturers. Please don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch
 
I am grateful for Ben here. Having an industry insider is a wonderful thing here. He is a good man. I had a problem with a head and Ben saw to it that I got a replacement. He even offered to replace a different head that I wasn't sure if it was the head or my own tuning issues. I didn't take him up on it, because it turned out that it wasn't an Evans issue. But the fact that he offered to replace it "just in case" it was the head means a lot to me.
Thank you Ben for all you do here.
 
Ben is an outstanding asset to Evans as well as this forum. He recently sent me some G12's for my kit which were awesome and was still willing to help me solve some of the issues I was still having... Geez, first day with my new drum set I guess....:)
 
EvansSpecialist said:
I'm don't believe I've "trash-talked" other companies or their products here.
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So when you were gloating about what your company was doing, in regards to thickness of single ply heads and added that they are "far from equivalents", you can honestly tell me you weren't referring to other single ply heads by other companies? Not to mention your reply about two ply heads from other companies being "muddy"? As well as going on to name drop a few pro drummers to make your two ply heads seem more appealing to possibly get me to buy and try them.

Sorry but unlike some of the sheep, you're not pulling the wool over my eyes. I know EXACTLY what you meant and/or the context of how you were saying it along with your attempts to sell off your products. Here is the quote and link to the post. I know all too well what you meant regarding two ply heads by other companies and how you were trying to sell me on your product. Also to add, I never used muddy in a way that meant it was a bad result from ANY head from ANY company. I just meant and should have used a different word, that it would hinder the potential of those drums if 2 ply heads were used. You took what I said and ran with it and took it out of context to take the opportunity to try and sell me on your products.

EvansSpecialist said:
Evans G2's with the Level 360 collar don't sound quite as "muddy" as other two-ply heads. Several of our artists, Keith Carlock included, who are usually anti-two-ply were quite impressed by the resonance of our G2's. Definitely worth checking out.

Cheers!
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http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1180949&postcount=7
 
XplosiveDrummer said:
So when you were gloating about what your company was doing, in regards to thickness of single ply heads and added that they are "far from equivalents", you can honestly tell me you weren't referring to other single ply heads by other companies? Not to mention your reply about two ply heads from other companies being "muddy"? As well as going on to name drop a few pro drummers to make your two ply heads seem more appealing to possibly get me to buy and try them.

Sorry but unlike some of the sheep, you're not pulling the wool over my eyes. I know EXACTLY what you meant and/or the context of how you were saying it along with your attempts to sell off your products. Here is the quote and link to the post. I know all too well what you meant regarding two ply heads by other companies and how you were trying to sell me on your product. Also to add, I never used muddy in a way that meant it was a bad result from ANY head from ANY company. I just meant and should have used a different word, that it would hinder the potential of those drums if 2 ply heads were used. You took what I said and ran with it and took it out of context to take the opportunity to try and sell me on your products.



http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1180949&postcount=7
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I don't care if he came on here and flat out said Remo sucks. You need to let it go dude!
 
Yeah, we can only wish more company reps were on the forum here so we could ask questions, get answers easily.

Can only assume they're either not aware of the DRUMMERWORLD forum and/or they're just not progressively minded enough to be here.

If you're a part of, or represent a drum gear related company, this is the place you want to be, for the most part we the forum members are the actual people buying/using (or not buying/using) your stuff on the front lines and in the trenches.
 
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