bobdadruma
Platinum Member
It was just a typing error.
That's what the song "Come Sail Away" was about, Sailing across the Styx River with Charon.
LOL!
I remember LMAO back when that report came out. It actually made the network news!
Not Just FOX! Real Network News!
Hey Ken, Did you know that Styx's music had Satanical messages in it?
Remember that rumor from the 80's?
I loved that band!
Yes, Classic Rock attention getter fill techniques,
Good Answer!
...The bottom line is that when people talk about showmanship, the1970s really had it. Metal had in in the '80s. But that was the thing Grunge lacked, and that is the thing music is often lacking today, esp in the alt rock genre...
...No, Cobain already did that.
I'm curious what you guys think when you see a musically crummy band that puts on a big show? I get rather annoyed. Kind of a 'learn to play first...then jump around' mentality, but then maybe I'm just getting old and bitter and should move to South Africa.
I'm curious what you guys think when you see a musically crummy band that puts on a big show? I get rather annoyed. Kind of a 'learn to play first...then jump around' mentality, but then maybe I'm just getting old and bitter and should move to South Africa.
Well of course.
But I don't think the was the OP's point. The discussion was about taking it the next level.
I don't get how every discussion on "show" gets dismissed as "learn to play first". Krupa and Pape Jo Jones were big on the visual tricks, but no one said they couldn't play. Clearly, many drummers/musicians DO learn to play first, and then incorporate the "show" aspect to take their career to the next level.
The question I was trying to ask is more, 'Does a band/drummer need to have a certain level of skill before they engage in showmanship?' Does it bother you if they aren't technically very good, but try to put on a big show and engage the audience?
The OP talked about engaging the audience so they don't feel isolated. I'm not trying to dismiss showmanship, and I think it's a valid question, but maybe you've been through this before.
The question I was trying to ask is more, 'Does a band/drummer need to have a certain level of skill before they engage in showmanship?' Does it bother you if they aren't technically very good, but try to put on a big show and engage the audience?
The OP talked about engaging the audience so they don't feel isolated. I'm not trying to dismiss showmanship, and I think it's a valid question, but maybe you've been through this before.
I would like to add a bit more to this thread.
A few months ago I was playing a show at a large club.
It came time for me to solo.
There were many people dancing on the floor.
When I started my solo I simply followed the groove of the people that I could see that were dancing.
I looked out into the crowd and I played a groove to the dancers.
I then began to go to my toms and snare while keeping aware of the audience at all times.
I let them tell me what to play. I played to what they were doing! That was the first time ever that I had done this! This was the first time that I had the audience in my hands so to speak. They were controlling what I played as I controlled what they did!
It was magic! A magic that I had never felt before or since. The moment was right I guess.
I hope that I explained that so all could understand what I mean? I wasn't imagining it, It was real.
You'll need to become a rock icon first to pay for your horses....but then maybe I'm just getting old and bitter and should move to South Africa.
You'll need to become a rock icon first to pay for your horses.
And I submit the nickname:
Coldhardsteel
Call Me Steeley Dan