Yesterday, my friend asked me to learn part of one of his solos, and one of his 'remixes' of an existing drum track.
I watched the videos, and came to the conclusion that Barker relies purely on speed and thrashing big cymbals, than actually having any talent.
Rubbish, he's woodshedded and paid his dues like all the other successful drummers. Try actually transcribing note for note his parts and play them as he plays them. These parts aren't easy. He has fantastic rudimental ability.
for god sake.. i never said he was the bestXXXXXXXXXXXmarching drummer on the planet.. i just said hes quite good.. and he was the first to mix the marching stuff with pop/punk rock or even hip.hop music..
ive listened to jojo mayer.. in fact hes not my favourite drummer just because of the music he plays.. so what? yeah.. he plays like hell he has an amazing technique.. who cares?
travis barker is the best on his busineess and thats it.
and if you guys dont like him.. why the hell are you here..!?.. we all know hes overrated.. and thats because of the sucsess his bands had.. (maybe because of him.. --')
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for god sake.. i never said he was the best marching drummer on the planet.. i just said hes quite good.. and he was the first to mix the marching stuff with pop/punk rock or even hip.hop music..
ive listened to jojo mayer.. in fact hes not my favourite drummer just because of the music he plays.. so what? yeah.. he plays like hell he has an amazing technique.. who cares?
travis barker is the best on his busineess and thats it.
and if you guys dont like him.. why the hell are you here..!?.. we all know hes overrated.. and thats because of the sucsess his bands had.. (maybe because of him.. --')
In truth, he almost had a real issue with the story about how he was practicing for the WFD world finals and planned to win it. A lot of those competitors were really lickin' their chops over that one because that absolutely wasn't going to work out well.
Well man, it's not about us liking or disliking him. Boo McAfee, the founder of WFD says he's a very nice guy. So I'm pretty certain I would like him if I met him. But everyone here is allowed to discuss his music if that's our wish. I mean why would ALL people come here to worship him? Isn't a fan site where you go for that? The old Blink 182 is site still up, right? I know it was a few months ago.
I do want to pick at your claim that he is some kind of innovator for mixing a flavor of marching music into his own genre. Actually people have been doing that with all kinds of music for over 100 years, and New Orleans second line drummers were incorporating the marching thing into the earliest attempts at punk/pop in the early 1980s, or when Barker was in the 1st grade. So that just didn't happen. This was followed by the same thing occuring with hip hop in the mid 1980s. Again, no.
Besides, it's time we put this mighty Barker marching band career to rest. Man, he marched maybe one full season his sophmore year in high school. That's it ...nothing more, including that fabled drum corps career that a lot Barker fans go on and on about, that also never happened. Less than one season doesn't even match up to the collective preseason marching band camps that most of us Americans go through in a normal high school career. To say that this drink of water changed him as a drummer or altered the direction of a significant drum style within an important musical evolution is beyond ridiculous, and from what I hear about Barker, would really embarrass him.
One of the reasons you don't hear anymore new urban legends about Travis Barker is because he supposedly cooled down those press agents he used to have, who were actually the ones exaggerating that stuff to begin with. . In truth, he almost had a real issue with the story about how he was practicing for the WFD world finals and planned to win it. A lot of those competitors were really lickin' their chops over that one because that absolutely wasn't going to work out well.
Then it turns out that he was this nice, cool guy who wasn't pushing any of that stuff. He had nothing to do with it. Still despite his curtailing the new stories, these old ones/ like his being a marching band demon/innovator, continue with no end in sight, because so many of his fans just won't believe the real truth.
and another question, how come when you give your opinion it's called giving your two cents, but when someones wants it they say pennie for your thoughts?
I have a very unoriginal friend that went through a travis barker phase, even tried starting his own clothing line like him, hes a good drummer,(barker not the friend) but in my experience everyone I've met that likes him say he's a good drummer because they like the way he dresses, has his own show etc.,
What I'm trying to say is it's not the guy i have a problem with, its most of his fans, or mtv people in general. I hate how stupid people can be with stuff like this. The guy desevres what he has but its all these freakin little barkertards running around saying he owned so and so's favorite drummer that pisses alot of serious drummers off.
and another question, how come when you give your opinion it's called giving your two cents, but when someones wants it they say pennie for your thoughts?
Maybe its becuase thier is a difference between "opinion" and "thoughts."
"Opinons" are a personal view: the view somebody takes about a certain issue, especially when it is based solely on personal judgment. "Opinons" are usually a fairly well thought out view of a specific case wether truly informed or not. The individual has dedicated some time to the thought therefore forming an "opinion." therefore its worth more to the individual giving it. 2 cents
"Thoughts" are the process of considering: the process of applying the mind to thinking about a particular person or subject. An opinion usually isn't formed by this point of time in the thought process, but its getting there. Hence, only worth a penny.
Now, I have no idea if I'm right.. but it sounds good.
Great post, TG! Thank You for that.
Hee...hee... Love that last sentence! ;-)
Play On!
Yes, but wrong place!!! It's the Travis Place
Bernhard
So you're saying he's both fast and excellent, but you'd prefer him to be admired for his excellence rather than his speed? Believe me, there are plenty of people admire him for the "right" reasons.