Heads are doing something weird.

Double ply with Newton Rings rule! Single ply clears drool!
I've always watched the Newton Rings on my two plies as I played.
 
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Before everyone gets their knickers in a bunch...

'some unnamed oily substance' I'm not sure what it is, but there is some form of a liquid substance in between the two plys of all 5 of my ebony's

;)

I hear tell Newton Rings excrete an oily enzyme after breeding.
 
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Before everyone gets their knickers in a bunch...

'some unnamed oily substance' I'm not sure what it is, but there is some form of a liquid substance in between the two plys of all 5 of my ebony's

;)

No, There is nothing in there. Welcome to the block list. Uninformed I can deal with. Unwilling to learn I cannot. Waste someone else's time.
 
No, There is nothing in there. Welcome to the block list. Uninformed I can deal with. Unwilling to learn I cannot. Waste someone else's time.

I don't understand why some people have to act like this. I was simply stating that it seems to me (excuse me for being uninformed?) that logically if there is a green, blue, and purple color in between the two plys of heads, and it moves around when I press on it, something would be in there.

Try to grow up. It's just the internet. Flipping out on people for simply stating their opinion gets you nowhere.
 
I don't understand why some people have to act like this. I was simply stating that it seems to me (excuse me for being uninformed?) that logically if there is a green, blue, and purple color in between the two plys of heads, and it moves around when I press on it, something would be in there.

Try to grow up. It's just the internet. Flipping out on people for simply stating their opinion gets you nowhere.

Your blatantly spreading misinformation. That's why people "act like this" Try a 30 search and get a few facts and you would see that your logic is plainly wrong. The information is right on Remo's site. If you don't know what your talking about and can't or won't invest 30 seconds to find out then STFU.
 
Your blatantly spreading misinformation. That's why people "act like this" Try a 30 search and get a few facts and you would see that your logic is plainly wrong. The information is right on Remo's site. If you don't know what your talking about and can't or won't invest 30 seconds to find out then STFU.

One word: decaf...

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Your blatantly spreading misinformation. That's why people "act like this" Try a 30 search and get a few facts and you would see that your logic is plainly wrong. The information is right on Remo's site. If you don't know what your talking about and can't or won't invest 30 seconds to find out then STFU.

I'm sorry for simply stating what I thought was true on a forum. You didn't tell the OP to search? I'm gonna be the adult in this conversation and end it. I thought you blocked me, but you still respond to my post. I think I'll step up and do it.

Nice chatting with you.
 
This could get boring to a lot of people and some of the younger generation probably won't know what I'm taking about. Anyway, about forty five years ago I started in the field of photography. Back then it was the age of film and when someone wanted a print larger than the contact size of the negative, it had to be enlarged. This was done with a photographic enlarger were the negative was placed inside the enlarger in what's called a negative carrier and the distance between the negative carrier and the photographic "enlarging" paper determined the size of the "print". The black and white negative has basically two components, the emulsion side which is actually the image and dull when light is reflected off of it and the backing or base side which is a highly polished film. When this negative was inserted into the enlarger, the heat of the light bulb inside the enlarger would sometimes cause the "film" to buckle and this would cause various areas on the print to be out of focus. To alleviate this problem they invented "glass" negative carriers. With this glass insert, the carrier would sandwich the negative and keep it completely flat, thus getting rid of any kind of focus problems in the print. Beside having four more surfaces to keep clean and dust free so the imperfections would not be transmitted to the print, we now have the problem with the top sheet of glass making perfect contact with the top of the negative or base side of the film. When the pressure is not completely even across the top of the film, "Newton Rings" would appear because of the two highly polished surfaces. The only way to get rid of them was to adjust the pressure inside of the carrier or use something called "anti Newton ring glass". It was sheets of glass that were very finely etched so this effect would be eliminated.

There ya go.
Dennis

You had me until "45 years ago"......ZZZzzzzzzzz - lol!

These rings also appear in Clear Emperors which, like Pinstipes, do not have any oil between the plies. Evans was the only drumhead manufacturer to put oil between plies in the Hydraulic series, which are about the deadest sounding heads you can use. Don't believe me? Listen to the tom sounds on Aja - these are Hydraulic heads on those drums!

The reason the Pinstripes sound the way they do is the bonded inch or so where fiberglass is used, along with adhesive, to bond the heads together at the circumference of the head.

Newton's rings are tasty Les Ismore, especially wqhen they are fried. But they do make your breath stink!

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Two days ago my friends and I were at a music store and we saw a PDP kit with EC2 Coated heads on it. These heads are also two ply but not sealed like Pinstripes around the edges. However, they too had the colorful stuff going on and I had to explain to my friend that there was no oil in between these plies. See, it happens with Evans heads too.
 
no. as far as i've ever heard (from remo.com or from drum forums) there is no oil between the layers of Pinstripes.

however - there is SOMETHING going on there.

i have not had the appearance of red, yellow or green liquidy substance, but as has been reported by two other posters i have a greenish layer underneath the black patent leather (that's what i call it) and a grey layer underneath that. it looks just like what happens to a Black X after a little beating. in fact, i would say that the Suede heads are the exact material as the Ebony Pinstripe material minus the patent leather.

but what is it ? what is that going on there ?

and where's my yellow and red color scheme ?
 
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