Jimmy "The Reverend" Sullivan

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hrmm.. Avenged Sevenfold. personally, i love these guys. guitarists do a great job playing in their songs, interesting, staying in key, harmonizing riffs. the singer has a very unique voice and stays in key. the drumming is very creative and very technical while still fitting to the music. I saw these guys live.. and i do have a complaint. while his drumming is spectacular, he barely hits his drums, like tapping at some points. at some points you couldnt even here some of the drums, expecially the snare. and his snare drum sounds the same live too, im not a big fan of it. and if you look in modern drummer at the pacific drum ads with him in it, he is holding the stick between his fingers, he actually plays like that alot live, he does excessive stick twirling, which is the reason for the weird grip on the stick. but you gotta hand it to these guys, fact is they are good musicians that create good music, just not to everyones preferences.
 
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i must first say that i hate avenged sevenfold, really not my thing.

however, i have a lot of respect for them because they are extremely good musicians

AND i think that the reverand is absolutely awsome
 
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mlehnertz said:
Are we listening to the same tune Stu? Bat Country? Good God man, if you thought the DW snare sound was bitchin' in the "baby drummer" thread, how can you like this snare sound?
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Actually I was just going off the whole album. I personally think Bat Country isn't the best song on there (but I do see why it was the main single).

Listening to it again (bat country, actually all the songs sound like the same snare), yeah, I like it a lot. It has a nice dry woody sound too it. The only snare sounds I really don't like are those high pitched twangy snares (the piccolo's). Or like a lot of the R&B guys who tune their snares so high it chokes all the tone out of it and all you get is CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK sound.

I like the Revs snare because it has beef. Of course it loses the nice snare response, but who cares. He just smashing the hell out of it anyway! Most of that sound is probably from Protools anyway. It sounds heavily engineered, since I've never heard a snare sound that way naturally.
 
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That's it. I think I'm going to buy "Waking The Fallen" tomorrow so I can finally hear what all this hype is about.
 
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he's fast, technical, and something rarely found in metal drummers...tasteful, he' doesn't overplay the music. i'm not all that into metal, but i'll admit it, i have all 3 avenged sevenfold cd's on my ipod. this guy is a good drummer, and i think he deserves to be put on the site.
 
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Hey guys, just another reminder that the purpose of this topic is to talk about drummers, and each thread is to talk about a specific drummer. Not to insult each other, not to say how much better someone else is, and not to bash or troll. Posts that need to be deleted will be, and "repeat offenders" will be escorted to the door. Thanks.
 
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1. there is no site who respects you more
2. there are many rules everywhere, but we have only one: don't bash drummers for their playing, even when you think you're better
3. no, in this way, there's NO free speech.

Bernhard
 
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A-Men Bernhard

It is amazing to me to read post about other drummers on sites. It is no wonder very few log in and share info with us. When in rare cases they do join in the tune changes and everyone who threw rocks is now flowering them with "your the best" posts after banging on them.

These guys allow this site to post their vid's and clinic stuff that is a tremendous help to all of even though there are some that act like idiots.

The Rev is a kid who has spent time mastering what he does. To some it may seem basic but he does it in time and clean. Look at all the posts on DB, hand speed and it is obvious that this kid has put in the time, practice, and hard work to get to this level.

You are right he is no Gadd, Smith, Rich, or Lang to name a few but neither we they at his age. Rev if you ever log on props kid (yeah kid i am 42) for your dedication and effort it shows in your playing. I like what you do only at my age you won't see me in the front row with my lip stapled to my eye-brow, but I will listen on my Ipod.
 
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The Rev seems like one of those drummers you hear that sound like they could bust out some really kool technical stuff if you went to there house and listened to them practicing, and messing around. Think about it, do you bust out all your sweetest technical fills and odd time beats? Probably not unless the style of music you play requires it, and even if it dose you probably don't play to the LIMIT of your abilities, well not live anyways. It's not like he's going all out on there Cd's, he's playing what he feels fits in best and what not. I recall a interview of him talking about the drumming on "City of Evil", how he doesnt care if it impresses everyone or not, just if his band likes it.

This goes for a lot of drummers i hear, and people seem to judge there skills just based on a cd, which i think is a bit far-fetched. Just my 2 cents tho!
 
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I find "The Reverand's" drumming to be a little repetitive; I feel the same way about Avenged Sevenfold's songs. I can tell that "The Reverand" is a pretty talented musician, but I cannot really understand what it is that makes everyone feel he is so amazing. I have heard many better drummers of the same style, so really, what is the "X" factor that makes "The Reverand" so great? Your thoughts?

- Marc
 
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Yes there are many drummers in genre of music that are just as good or better. I think the "X" factor for me would be his style for lack of a better word. You know he has awsum chops, but he doesnt bust them out every fill, he spends time thinking what would fit best and what would compliment the other instruments, he knows when to play and when not to i guess you could say. I also think you can tell hes holding back in his playing, which is mature and not often a strong point in his genre.

It's kinda of funny, you hear all these metal drummers that show great chops, and have great independence over their limbs, but they don't inspire as many people to start playing as the Rev dose. I believe it's because when he dose decide to display his chops, it has more of a shock value then these other guys do, simply because he doesnt do it every song. (I'm not saying all other metal drummers only play fast repetitive fills either) So i guess in conclusion he's just very tasteful player that plays for the music and not just himself. IMO :)
 
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I see..............Personally, I think his fills are ok, but just ok. I'm still waiting for the song where "The Reverand" can bare all his skill, so as to really impress his fans (thought that does not include me). Dave Lombardo shocked his fans with the Slayer song "Silent Scream"; at the time, no one had gone over 200bpm for the sheer amount of time Lombardo did in that song. I think it is a skill when a drummer can create great fills out of nowhere, and can make them interesting. One thing I don't understand is that, if the guitarists don't hold back, why should "The Reverand" ? The drums are just as audible as the guitars and vocals (the bass is the only instrument that cannot be heard very clearly), so I think he should let loose.

- Marc
 
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Well, he plays a drum solo at most of their shows, but that would be mostly crowd pleaser stuff. He recorded "Waking The Fallen" in 2 weeks, and "Sounding The Seventh Trumpet" the band recoded without a click. I recall a interview of the Rev saying almost all of "Waking the fallen" was made on the spot, they only had general ideas of the songs and he just threw in whatever and it turned out pretty good!

Personally i never got the hype with Lombardo. Though i've only listen to a few of Slayers songs and have only herd his clip on drummerworld which was ok, but it didn't me give the "aw" reaction i was expecting. He's still a great drummer tho, just not the kind im into.
I'm more of a Benny Grebb kinda guy.

Just wanted to add, i don't think his fills are amazing or blazing fast, just tasteful!
 
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Listen to "War Ensemble" or anything off of Seasons in the Abyss. Lombardo's drumming is ridiculously fast, and very creative; trust me, if there is one respected metal drummer, it is Dave Lombardo.

- Marc
 
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I just listened to "War Ensemble" Hmm, I'm sorry but i still don't get it. It wasn't that fast really... i can think of an Avenged Sevenfold songs just as fast with the same amount of chops off the top of my head.Checl out "Darkness Surrounding"(recorded without click) has pretty kool breakdown on the drums about 1:30 into it and "Remissions" and "Eternal Rest" are just as quick. Again i don't think this is amazing drumming, but it's just as good as "War Ensemble".

I don't want this to turn into "my band is better then yours" kinda thing, I'm just telling ya what I think.
 
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tambian89 said:
Listen to "War Ensemble" or anything off of Seasons in the Abyss. Lombardo's drumming is ridiculously fast, and very creative; trust me, if there is one respected metal drummer, it is Dave Lombardo.

- Marc
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right on man, Dave Lombardo is the best metal drummer that i've heard, and guess what.....SLAYER IS COMING TO VANCOUVER JULY 13TH!!! So if im not in Europe, i'll be seeing Dave Lombardo and the greatest metal band! As for The Reverand, i don't mind his drumming, he is alright but i hate his snare sound. That has nothing to do with his drumming, but he is good, are people considering him a metal drummer though???
 
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