MrLeadFoot
Silver Member
I'd like some opinions in regards to positioning two overheads relative to phase cancellation.
I hear a lot of people saying that if you don't have overheads positioned equidistant from the snare, you get phase cancellation that cuts out low tones. My overheads are not the same distance from my snare, and I don't think I've ever encountered this, or maybe I have but just don't know it.
Nevertheless, the theory doesn't make sense to me. For example, if low tones are what's affected by the phase cancellation, then why is it so important to have the overheads equidistant from the snare? What about all the toms and kick? You can't position two overheads equidistant from everything.
I always close-mic my 6 drums in addition to using two overheads. Does that change things? One of my overheads is 41" from the snare, and the other is 45". Would that discrepancy cause phase issues? Even if I were to have both overheads, say 43" from the snare, my snare mic is only 1.5" from the snare, so wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of trying to position overheads the same distance from the snare?.
I have also heard that if you have close-mic'd drums you should use the overheads to pick up cymbals only, and engage the low-cut switch on the overheads. But, if I do that, wouldn't they still pick up the drums, but only pick up the highs from the drums, and subsequently emphasize more of the highs of the drums in the mix?
FWIW, I've tried engaging the low-cut switch, but to be honest, while listening carefully with in-ears when striking cymbals I can detect a bit of difference, once I start playing the full kit, I don't really notice any difference, let alone when the whole band plays.
Can someone with experience please share some light on these issues?
I hear a lot of people saying that if you don't have overheads positioned equidistant from the snare, you get phase cancellation that cuts out low tones. My overheads are not the same distance from my snare, and I don't think I've ever encountered this, or maybe I have but just don't know it.
Nevertheless, the theory doesn't make sense to me. For example, if low tones are what's affected by the phase cancellation, then why is it so important to have the overheads equidistant from the snare? What about all the toms and kick? You can't position two overheads equidistant from everything.
I always close-mic my 6 drums in addition to using two overheads. Does that change things? One of my overheads is 41" from the snare, and the other is 45". Would that discrepancy cause phase issues? Even if I were to have both overheads, say 43" from the snare, my snare mic is only 1.5" from the snare, so wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose of trying to position overheads the same distance from the snare?.
I have also heard that if you have close-mic'd drums you should use the overheads to pick up cymbals only, and engage the low-cut switch on the overheads. But, if I do that, wouldn't they still pick up the drums, but only pick up the highs from the drums, and subsequently emphasize more of the highs of the drums in the mix?
FWIW, I've tried engaging the low-cut switch, but to be honest, while listening carefully with in-ears when striking cymbals I can detect a bit of difference, once I start playing the full kit, I don't really notice any difference, let alone when the whole band plays.
Can someone with experience please share some light on these issues?