ANIMALBEATS
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What are they for and when are they useful...?
And would they soud good on dw keller shells...?
And would they soud good on dw keller shells...?
tuning is a dream.
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I've got one kit with diecast and one with triple flange. I like them both equally.
I find that the diecast is harder to tune, due to them being so rigid, less flexible. I've heard a lot of other people say that, too.
You find contrary to the law of physics...More rigidity equals even tensioning across the head even in between the lugs as opposed to less rigidity allowing the hoop to flex in between the lugs and the head tension to be reduced at those points.......
My experience has been that they are easier to tune and maintain a tuning longer, where due to the rigidity when one lug loosens up, it affects the over all sound or tuning less...
Yeah, it's easy to see how a rigid hoop would theoretically have equal tension everywhere, but that's assuming that all the components are perfect: the hoop and bearing edges perfectly flat and in-round, and the head made well. Let's say the bearing edge dips down in one spot, or the hoop bumps up, it's harder to correct for that than with triple flange.
But I agree completely that they hold a tuning longer.
I think part of the plan is that they will take more of a beating and just last longer. I have them on my Renowns, and my 14 inch tom weighs more than my 16 inch Catalina Maple tom.
Thats right GRUNTRESTAD, You cant kill a die cast hoop. Heavy and solid! I prefer them to stamped. They feel so solid when you play a rim shot. I like cast hoops that bend over the lip of the drum toward the inside.
interesting to note dw dont believe in them...?
interesting to note dw dont believe in them...?
There are pros and cons to both kinds of hoops but I can't figure out why DW doesn't offer them either. They are a custom drum builder after all.
DW will make drums with die cast hoops for you, you just have to ask.
Die cast hoops do not make a drum less resonant. They focus the tone some by reducing overtones, but they don't force the heads to literally ring for a shorter amount of time.