Stroman
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IDDrummer.. Have you ever seen a Modern Ludwig Toms/Kick with splay ??
hmmmmm ,.........
No. Just snare drums. 2020202020
IDDrummer.. Have you ever seen a Modern Ludwig Toms/Kick with splay ??
hmmmmm ,.........
Bermuda? Any news on the official position Ludwig has on this?
Seems to me they dont see it as an issue as much as some do or they would change it. Its obvious to all but maybe only perceived as a problem to those who havent heard their explanation. It could be part of their "design" instead of a mistake as many seem to think.
I have noticed splay on Ludwig drums in the past during close inspection such as replacing heads; But, until I saw this thread I never gave it much thought.
Dang you guys! Now you have me looking for splay in every drum that I see
I hate you all
Hell, Im gonna play them right now so that I can sleep tonightJust play your Luddies a while, Bob. You'll be over it by tomorrow.
Hell, Im gonna play them right now so that I can sleep tonight
There's no way it's a deliberate design decision. If it was, it would be applied consistently, & they'd be marketing the hell out of it. I'd love to hear the design rationale behind thatIt could be part of their "design" instead of a mistake as many seem to think.
I'd love to hear the design rationale behind that
I'd love to hear the design rationale behind that /QUOTE]
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LMAO!!! Nice one
Perfect! I'll rush off & change our designs immediately. Man, have we been missing a trick hereThe new "Splay Lug Design" feature allows for a wider tuning range by allowing more tension to be applied to the head. The Splay design effectively compresses the heads collar by applying an inward force not seen on many lesser made drum kits. Wow your friends with acellerated rebound, and that rimshot CRACK you can't find anywhere else. Get your new Splay Snare today, where quality drum kits are sold!
For a limited time only!
The new "Splay Lug Design" feature allows for a wider tuning range by allowing more tension to be applied to the head. The Splay design effectively compresses the heads collar by applying an inward force not seen on many lesser made drum kits. Wow your friends with acellerated rebound, and that rimshot CRACK you can't find anywhere else. Get your new Splay Snare today, where quality drum kits are sold!
Then your older used drums will be advertised on eBay as, "Rare Pre-Splay Guru's"Perfect! I'll rush off & change our designs immediately. Man, have we been missing a trick here
If you check out their snare drums with die cast hoops you'll notice that everything lines up perfectly. I have two Ludwig snares, both with die cast hoops (one of them using Yamaha die cast aluminum hoops) and there is no tension rod splay. NONE.
LUDWIG should hire you as a PR man.
OK, so lets analyze the cause of the splay with factual evidence.
As I see it there are two things that can cause splay.
1) The outside diameter of the drum shell
2) The height of the lug casing from the shell.
Is that true?
This is based on the fact that hoops are standardized and changing the hoop to one that is made by another manufacturer doesn't affect the splay on metal ludwig snare drums.
Is that true?
Ludwig makes several types of metal shell snare drums and splay is seen on each type of metal shell.
Is that true?
Ludwig snare drums that show splay come with three types of lugs, and splay is seen with all three lug types. (tube, bow tie, imperial)
Is that true?
In what manufacturing year did splay begin to occur?
Lets answer the above questions to find the true cause of the splay.
If the answer is that undersized drum shells are the cause of splay then is it a deliberate design by Ludwig to ensure that the rim of the head doesn't make contact with the drum shell?
Ludwig makes drums with standard hoops and standard dimension lugs so changing the O.D. of the shell is the simple option to achieve this.