The death of Rock n Roll?

...iwrestledabearonce and Five Finger Death Punch...

Both great bands. I can't comment on band name ridiculousness. My solo project that never seems to get anywhere because no one else is on the same page as me is Zombie Hooker Tea Party. Don't ask, I have no idea...
 
And I really despise these three name phrase bands.....Pierce The Veil....come on man, dumb!! Cage The Elephant?? These are actionable phrases.

Lots of opportunities for self deprecating 3-word band names here!

Off My Lawn
Damn You Kids
Cage the Dinosaurs
....

I have to second this. This is where all the creativity lies as far as I am concerned. While I don't like ALL of it, I do like a whole lot of it. The drumming is almost beyond what seems humanly possible, the guitars are wandering all over the place and using things like sweeps as normal everyday fodder, the vocals have come to a point to where they can be from clean to Cookie monster and everything in between. The music takes paths that remind me of classical music. There are no limits, just like Rock used to be. Here is your new Rock n Roll.

True. Today's metal reminds me of 70s classic rock ... loud, fast, flashy, aggressive, exciting, grating ... mainly aimed at teenagers and early 20s.

What I have noticed is today's rock bands tend to be less eclectic - once you get a critical mass of things they start to specialise - be it job structures in workplaces, TV stations, hive animals, etc.

It's happened with bands too - I'm not seeing the eclecticism of The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, The Doors, The Who, Zappa, early Tubes, Led Zep, Bowie, Lou Reed, Pink Floyd, Joni Mitchell, King Crimson, Queen, Eno, ELP, Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Radiohead, Gong, etc.

Get off my lawn!

Alright, maybe it isn't for everyone. So I see it like this: My dad doesn't like my music (metal), my grandfather didn't like my dads music (60's-70's rock), my great grandfather I never knew, but I would be willing to bet he didn't like my grandfathers music (polka). Now the funny thing about it is the younger generation does like the older generations music in my case.

Very true. I don't think I've seen as much interest in older forms by the younger generation before. Don't know what to make of that.
 
Very good! I love the SDing band names....those are great. If I may, I will make a simple mod to your last suggestion....although I liked it in its original form, I can more accurately mirror my mindset with the following:

"Unleash" The Dinosaurs

And for those who like the sublimely stupid long band names...

"Unleash the dinosaurs so they may trample and eradicate bands having actionable phrases as names"

Lol....




Lots of opportunities for self deprecating 3-word band names here!

Off My Lawn
Damn You Kids
Cage the Dinosaurs
....



True. Today's metal reminds me of 70s classic rock ... loud, fast, flashy, aggressive, exciting, grating ... mainly aimed at teenagers and early 20s.

What I have noticed is today's rock bands tend to be less eclectic - once you get a critical mass of things they start to specialise - be it job structures in workplaces, TV stations, hive animals, etc.

It's happened with bands too - I'm not seeing the eclecticism of The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, The Doors, The Who, Zappa, early Tubes, Led Zep, Bowie, Lou Reed, Pink Floyd, Joni Mitchell, King Crimson, Queen, Eno, ELP, Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Radiohead, Gong, etc.

Get off my lawn!



Very true. I don't think I've seen as much interest in older forms by the younger generation before. Don't know what to make of that.
 
You're right.

Let's bring back sensible names like they used in the good ole days.





Say, whatever happened to Mott the Hoople?

LOL!

The internet has killed band names. In the 90's when I was first starting bands we could name ourselves whatever we wanted (we in fact named ourselves "The Wanted") and not worry if anybody else outside our town had the same name. Now with the internet I can see immediately if any other band has our name. So instead of "The Wanted", of which I am sure there were hundreds, we would have to come up with something completely original that no other band on the planet has.
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And even weirder is now see 101 bands online using your bands name from the 90's before everyone had net access.
 
Very true. I don't think I've seen as much interest in older forms by the younger generation before. Don't know what to make of that.

I grew up listening to everything. The only music that I really had to discover for myself was rap and metal. I don't discard a type of music when it becomes outdated or uncool, I will still listen to it. Disco even has a somewhat regular rotation in the car, just put the mp3 player on random and off we go!
 
Rock n Roll

The death ? Not possible. I totally agree regarding the roots -- jazz--I have taught kids -- especially in cars--musical history and how to"hear". What I am talking about is--there is first, no worse torture than cruising in your car-with its great sound system and having screaming kids ruin the ride...I have used the music ( which speaks even to savage beasts-gotta love em) to put a end to little people , ruining my ride.. This works with them throughout their life--

A car of teenage boys--turn on the tunes....Ask them Who is playing-when it was written--name the drummer--what makes the tune great---etc., then I fire a jazz tune at em--so they hear-the licks--My kids and --crap--who knows how many others who got stuck driving with me ---all got a Rock n Roll education.( and still do)( we play the newer stuff and talk about it)

I teach em all--then--bring them to see and hear live---This is where some changes have taken place---Yeah--Jazz Fests--seated at Big Band concerts--anywhere live.Soul--Blues--
I think changes that have affected Rock--are the too available electronic listening devices- and adults discouraging the arts in general---here kid, you can sit up this is your first video game--what happened to kids banging away on pots and pans and percussion--tunes playing in the background ??

Live music-----nothing better--the closer the better--A lot of stuff going on discourages the
attendance at live performances. I am sick to hear most kids in high school do not
have a clue what it is like to have live bands play at their dances even----

Too many interference's---local bands instead of getting paid for gigs--are expected to play
at what I call "teasers". They pay, to be allowed to play for about a hour--just when things
start to get comfortable--then they scramble to haul off their gear--so the next band does its thing---What is this ?? Who even remembers who they came to hear ?

The other thing--these kids later encounter is too many cops --on route to venues--at the gigs--they are scared off. ( some people think Rockers are evil and are a bad influence-well we have heard all that before...)

Nope--Rock n Roll will never die as long as we keep playing and teaching these little people to hear -- and play--and we will listen..and pull out our instruments and play ......
 
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Rock n Roll

The death ? Not possible. I totally agree regarding the roots -- jazz--I have taught kids -- especially in cars--musical history and how to"hear". What I am talking about is--there is first, no worse torture than cruising in your car-with its great sound system and having screaming kids ruin the ride...I have used the music ( which speaks even to savage beasts-gotta love em) to put a end to little people , ruining my ride.. This works with them throughout their life--
A car of teenage boys--turn on the tunes....Ask them Who is playing-when it was written--name the drummer--what makes the tune great---etc., them I fire a jazz tune at em--so they hear-the licks--My kids and --crap--who knows how many others who got stuck driving
with me ---all got a Rock n Roll education.( and still do)

I teach em all--then--bring them to see and hear live---This is where some changes have
have taken place---Yeah--Jazz Fests--seated at Big Band concerts--anywhere live.

The changes that have affected Rock--are the too available electronic listening devices-

Live music-----nothing better--the closer the better--A lot of stuff going on discourages the
attendance at live performances. I am sick to hear most kids in high school do not
have a clue what it is like to have live bands play at their dances even----

Too many interference's---local bands instead of getting paid for gigs--are expected to play
at what I call "teasers". They pay, to be allowed to play for about a hour--just when things
start to get comfortable--then they scramble to haul off their gear--so the next band does its thing---What is this ?? Who even remembers who they came to hear ?

The other thing--these kids later encounter is too many cops --on route to venues--at the gigs--they are scared off. ( some people think Rockers are evil and are a bad influence-well we have heard all that before...)

Nope--Rock n Roll will never die as long as we keep playing and teaching these little people to hear -- and play--and we will listen..
 
On discovering that somebody else is using your band's name...

(Actionable phrase content warning)

I discovered that the name that I chose for my band (ok, "band") is already in use.

There are at least two bands on the planet calling themselves "Jump the Shark".

We may have to change our name.

I wonder if there's another band out there called "Actionable Phrase"?
 
I find the death of rock and roll to be a myth. Like the death of opera (a topic they've been talking about since at least opera's 2nd decade.) Well, that form is now over 400 years old and still going strong.Or the death of the American Theatre (the fabulous invalid) Rock has splintered into sub genres like hip hop and the like but it is obviously still alive and well and has only been around as rock and roll for a little over 60 years. It's a very young form of music which drew on the pop music of the 100 years before it's "advent"(someone coming up with the new name of pop so a new generation would identify it as their own when it's still basically the same harmonic/melodic material they were using 300 years ago.)
 
Lol. Now that is good and ironic! Naming the band Actionable Phrase is very funny and clever

Not that you need it, but you would get the old guy seal of approval..






On discovering that somebody else is using your band's name...

(Actionable phrase content warning)

I discovered that the name that I chose for my band (ok, "band") is already in use.

There are at least two bands on the planet calling themselves "Jump the Shark".

We may have to change our name.

I wonder if there's another band out there called "Actionable Phrase"?
 
Action That Phrase :)

Nice historical perspective, MJ. I guess it depends on what you mean by rock n roll, which could be anything from Bill Haley to Foo Fighters.

Jeremy, I think you could be right that there is less "roll" in current music, though it's hard for music to roll when compressed to smithereens. The shuffle seems to be out of favour.
 
On discovering that somebody else is using your band's name...

(Actionable phrase content warning)

I discovered that the name that I chose for my band (ok, "band") is already in use.

There are at least two bands on the planet calling themselves "Jump the Shark".

We may have to change our name.

I wonder if there's another band out there called "Actionable Phrase"?

No,you don't.Band names aren't protected under the trademark law,and as such,can't be copyrighted.Logos are something different altogether.There was a case back in the late 60's,where the Chicago Transit Authority,threatened to sue the band Chicago Transit Authority(now known as Chicago) for use of their name.The band capitulated,because,they didn't want the negative publicity,so they just became "Chicago" with their own logo,by the second album.

They would have won the case in court.

http://www.alankorn.com/articles/band_trademark.html

Steve B
 
As long as some kid in a garage is plucking away on his/her First Act guitar/amp combo they bought at Goodwill for $10; rock n' roll will never die.
 
I think country music brought rock and roll back to life.

Most of the current country music songs sound like rock and roll to me.


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Jeremy, I think you could be right that there is less "roll" in current music, though it's hard for music to roll when compressed to smithereens. The shuffle seems to be out of favour.

Didn't rock 'n' roll start by straightening out shuffle patterns and accenting on 2 and 4? Also, compression affects dynamics, not timing.
 
Didn't rock 'n' roll start by straightening out shuffle patterns and accenting on 2 and 4? Also, compression affects dynamics, not timing.

Very good, but I spoke of two different aspects - the reduced dynamics and fewer shuffles. Just my impression from the outside. I have almost no connection with rock n roll these days.
 
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“Rock and roll ain't nothing but jazz with a hard backbeat.” “The rock's easy, but the roll is another thing...
― Keith Richards, Life

There was a time when this was true.
I think that since the eighties happened, Rock lost it's roll thanks to machines.

I dont think it was the machines. It was an age and a time that passed, and the culture of that age mutated into other things, despite furious efforts to bottle the magic with phrases like " rock & roll will never die".

I think rock & roll was a voice of a generation ( a couple of generations maybe ), and at the center of it all was long suppressed and unapologetic self expression.

I think the spirit remains, because there is something universal and everlasting about it,but the music has now mutated into other things, not the least of it being a different set of values.


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I think the spirit remains, because there is something universal and everlasting about it,but the music has now mutated into other things, not the least of it being a different set of values.

Abe, what spirit remains? I don't see a cohesive spirit of rock n' roll. It's just youth culture an the fact that every generation gripes about their descendants' music. And values. And they are all probably making a good point.

But tech has always been a huge driver. One day The Machine will shape arts, politics, laws, foods ... everything to suit their needs over ours. The more entwined humans become with tech the more we will reflect it.
 
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