Originally Posted by drumdevil9
I have almost exclusively Gibraltar cymbal holders and have no clue what you're talking about. My cymbals swing freely without a problem. They use the same 8mm threads as the others you mentioned.
Wow, really? I mean, with the Gibraltar gear I have itís really obviously very inferior to the high quality hardware I have from Yammy, DW, etc. The Gibraltar cymbal holder for example is almost half again as wide as any of my other stands. Would definitely damage cymbals if I foolishly gave it a chance. Unfortunately, Gibraltar gets a 100% failure rating from me, and Iím astounded that other people havenít had the same bad experiences.