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Old 04-03-2012, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: Why Musicians Shouldn't Work for Peanuts

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Originally Posted by brittc89 View Post
Please do, kiddies! Part of the reason going out to see music is so unattractive are the garbage 12 year olds playing Nirvana covers with hot rods in the local coffee shop. They should NOT be getting gigs. Theyre undercutting cost and damaging venue reputation. I did this when I was 15. We literally stole a gig from local jazz musicians who were hundreds of times better than we were at the time. I didn't know we were undercutting (the POWER of education, I let all my students know how I feel about this and what they should be asking for when it's time to start gigging), but the jazz club went out of business and I think to a large degree my garbage high school jazz band was responsible. I wish I would not have done that. I had no idea I was doing anything wrong at the time,.
Blaming yourself is a bit mis-placed though. Shouldn't the venue have known the other guy were a hundred times better and worth playing more?

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You're not good enough to work yet? No problem!!! Dont work then! Keep it in the shed with your dudes, get tight, get killin, and then you can start to worry about venues..
But do you think the average kids listens? On average, a good majority of people tend to think they are ready for more than they are.

If there are gigs to be had, kids will take them. People tend to have a hard time looking at their own music objectively.

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Originally Posted by Bad Tempered Clavier View Post
if the promoter/whoever decides that any given band isn't good enough - whether they're greasy teenagers or wrinkly old farts - then I guess they don't get the gig.....

But it astonishes me how many venues are run by people who simply put no value in music at all. If that's the case, fine:
And from my observation, that is where the real problem lies. It's not musicians under cutting each other or venues simply not willing to pay, it comes down to so many venues do not take "quality" of the bands into the equation. And because they don't, they book bad bands that drive customers away over the long run, just because the band promised to bring in x-number of paying people, or worse, fronted the money to the venue for customers that never show up.
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