Originally Posted by Zickos
I know it was used as far back as the 1700's or even the 1600's in military bands. Further than that I don't know.
Excellent! It goes even farther, reaching back into the 1500's. Military drummers employed this grip as did Drum and Fife bands of that era. All used what method or system of playing traditional grip which was then passed down from generation to generation for 500 years plus?