Thread: Custom veneer
View Single Post
Old 04-16-2011, 11:53 PM
eddiehimself's Avatar
eddiehimself eddiehimself is offline
Platinum Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Room 409
Posts: 2,563
Default Re: Custom veneer

What gave you the impression that i was condeming workers' rights? I'm just saying that if you want to be able to make things for as cheap as they are now, then inevitably that cost saving is going to come from somewhere, and that usually involves the people who have to make them. Not saying whether that is right or wrong, after all this is a discussion about economics, not ethics or human rights.

Originally Posted by mediocrefunkybeat View Post
Is that a result of rising costs? Absolutely. Are those costs as result of improved working conditions? Partially, but it's an inevitable part of economic development. South Korea is one example of a rapidly developing, specialised economy that is moving away from general production and into developing of technology and sooner or later, South Korea will be in a similar position to the UK, whereby manufacturing becomes a highly specialised sector as the workforce become more educated and specialised themselves.
The bottom line costs determine what the best products to make in a particular location are, and the amount you can pay workers determines much of what those costs will be. So the improving of conditions and people's wages in countries like ours means that it costs a lot more to build certain items, making it impossible to build certain products in the UK. At the end of the day, the increasing costs of hiring workforces in the UK as well as other western industrialised nations is the main driving force behind the increasing costs of producing goods in this country and therefore the moving of these productions to far eastern locations as manufacturers realised that it is actually cheaper to deliver many things from halfway across the world than to pay people the larger amount of money that it would require to produce it in the location where it is to be sold.

Originally Posted by mediocrefunkybeat View Post
Trade Unions, humanitarianists and environmentalists are not just a group of blue-sky idealists. They exist for a reason - and whilst we may all complain about the inevitable inconvenience of their lobbying and the regulation that is imposed as a result, the fact remains that they actually do very important work trying to improve the quality of conditions and health of those within their auspices. If that is a problem for you, then you really need to stop focussing so much on the bottom line.

Does that mean I always buy from a developed country? No. But it is becoming an increasing concern for me and I support companies that make high-quality goods.
As i already said, I have not expressed an opinion one way or the other on the importance on workers' rights. This isn't really a discussion about the rights and wrongs of working conditions as they are, more about the consequences of the working conditions and regulations of certain nations and how that affects the costs of production. Probably best to see what someone is actually trying to say before making posts like this in the future...
Underworked, underpaid and under-sexed...

EHs Music Facebook Page

Last edited by eddiehimself; 04-17-2011 at 12:05 AM.
Reply With Quote