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Old 04-02-2011, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: My rant on today's pop music

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Originally Posted by bermuda View Post
Made by robots, for robots? I'd like to see that!!

I'm not saying anyone has to like anything. But it's important to understand that there's humanity in any art, and the creators of this 'robot' music have as much passion for what they do as, let's say, Neil Peart and Mickey Hart have for what they do. For those drummers, playing drums is not just hitting them, and for most modern music producers and artists, making music is not just pushing buttons. There's a lot of creativity and thought that goes into making most pop/rap/dance tracks. Just because a producer didn't physically play a bass, or guitar, or drums, doesn't mean he clicked a mouse and out popped a track!

Let's show particular respect to arguably the most mindless of those genres: dance. As drummers, do we actually listen to what goes into those tracks, or do we just think it's someone pressing a few keys on their midi controller and calling it a drum part? Well, I have to listen. Part of my primary gig is backwards-engineering such tracks in order to recreate the drum & percussion parts, and I can assure you that more often than not, those parts are well thought out, involve creative sounds and different tunings, and may have a dozen sneaky little things going on that contribute to the groove of the track. These are things that a live drummer wouldn't do, and couldn't do.

I'm not asking anyone to like those songs and genres, but as musicians, and especially as drummers, let's show some respect for the work that goes into the majority of these tracks. It's the same as not liking jazz, for example. You still have the respect the players for what they do.

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What I meant by robot music is that machines are the biggest tool to create the music, and to me, it just sounds like something that would cater more to a robot, with the repititious beat, sometimes embarrassingly simple melodies (ie. a song that literally has 3 octaves as the melody and thats it), and vocals that sound like robots (autotune to the max). And I agree with you that these people are into their thing just as I am into mine, but that's not really where I was going with it. Like I said, people like what they like, and that's fine. I like what I like and try not to criticize other's interests. I'm pretty open to a lot of things, but I can also recognize regurgitated repackaged radio garbage when I hear it and no matter what I do, I can't get into it or appreciate it. Plus, I find myself with PLENTY of music to catch up on that was recorded before I was born to keep me busy. But overall, I just don't pay attention to what radio is trying to convince me is cool or whatever. That goes for rock or anything else, not just pop or hip-hop... anyone seen "They Live"?

And yes, I would love to see real robots making music... or cybernetic organisms, whatever they prefer.
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