Originally Posted by Deltadrummer
Ditto on that Polly. You are a girl after my own heart. I almost cried when I read that post. lol
...I lvoe it when being a radical becomes so commonplace that the only thing to do is rebel against it.
I think we're all in agreement that Polly is probably one of the most philosophical here. P:
Again, Kurt Cobain. He hated the "rebels" in punk and he fought them, but ended up being a 'true' rebel. Nirvana had an interesting impact on music...
Originally Posted by Pollyanna
Hey, sorry Steely for not giving you the credit for pointing out that rock music is increasingly looking backwards at itself. Good observation.
The 'net - especially YouTube and MySpace - does raise my hopes that the power of the industry will be reduced. However, I've seen more and more high quality clips appearing on Youtube, headed by advertising. Again, corporations are using their advantage of high quality production.
I hate how we've become so hung up on production. Think of all those jazz recordings from the 30s right through to the 60s - Satchmo, Duke, Goodman, Bird, Miles, Trane etc. Or rock from the 60s - Beatles, Stones, Jimi, Janis, Doors, Floyd, Turtles. The production is total crap when compared with today's pop music but who cares? The music was FANTASTIC!
Yet plenty of younger people do care because their ears expect "better" - very discerning about the things that cost $$, so much so that it matters more to them than the things that money can't buy.
Yes, the internet is readily expanding the indie part of the music scene- but, take it from one of those indie guys, we're using what we have so we can get closer to the industry itself. We're interested in being able to make our music a living, whether it brands us as "sellouts" or not.
Well, Abbey Road sounds pretty good, even for today's standards... ._.
Ah, those Audiophiles.
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum
We're certainly seeing signs of it. We're seeing few "big names" selling umpteen million copies of any one album, yet hundred upon hundreds of bands are able to sell a few thousand copies, and more underground genre's of music are getting small bits of mainstream recognition because it sells just enough to not be ignored.
I remember being 11 or so, and thinking Ozzy and Judas Priest were so extreme. Now, they get played on classic rock radio along side the The Beatles and the Stones, and I think nothing of letting my 3 yr old listen to them.
Again, indie is going up, big and shiny is going down. At least for heavy music(rock to metal).
I think another observation made in this thread was the ever-evolving definition of "shocking". Years from now Marilyn Manson and Slipknot will be like Judas Priest and Ozzy, in the "Nostalgia Radio" library.
It makes you wonder what will be next, what will be considered shocking after the current shockers are outdated.