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Old 03-29-2010, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Pat Metheny on Kenny G and other Jazz greats

All us "serious" jazz musicians are all outsiders and crazy folks anyways not much interested in wider public acceptance as individuals or as ensemble players or for the music we love in general....speaking for myself and what i've seen and experienced. Part of the outsider's and jazz musicians code of order and ethics....:}.

Jazz is a very personal expression that touches you in a deep and special way at ANY age, no special handshake for membership is required. It can start at one place {tunes/standards} and as you dig deeper as your ears and emotions get more hungry for more personal creative expressions within the "jazz tree" can lead to "out jazz" {free improv} many times. Some may dig and do one or both or some other variation from the root tree in the mix...no judgements what you choose it all music. Whether you stay closer to the core of the family jazz tree {tunes/song forms/changes} in a more straight ahead swing based setting or it like to wander out on its many branches it's all interconnected in the greater scope to the mother jazz tree from my take on what I both like to listen to and record and perform since I do both since that's where my creative juices have directed me in a natural manner and way. Whether folks dig the stuff on the outer branches or closer to the inner trunk one over the other means nothing to the one living the music in the middle of the ever evolving personal jazz journey.

What is real jazz? well the answer to that that's gets very personal and close to home to some of us. With well over 3000 post here in my own personal way i've answered that question in some detail in the past from my personal perspective and life living reference point as a example. Many others have offered there own take on that question but many of those don't post much here anymore, only a very small handful still do. I covered it...others covered it from their own personal place and perspective on the subject when the question was asked before. Sometimes the clear direct answers from a jazz musician perspective to this question have led to some truly lively debates...... doesn't change in any way how the jazz musician plays, records and lives the music.

Bottom line the jazz outsiders in the trenches do it better in actions {playing the music} rather than any mere words can better express.

"What does jazz or what is real jazz really mean?" everyone has a different answer and take to that based on where they sit on the subject of the music in question in their own life.
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