"Yeah great monkey drummers but the music SUCKS"
I don't get it. Monkey drummers as in "using all four limbs wildly" or monkey drummers as in "unintelligent"? It has to be the first one because that's the only interpretation that makes sense. If that's what it is, then I think to a certain extent that's true of a bunch of that stuff. It's unfortunate that you have to listen to so much cheese to hear all the amazing drumming. There was some stuff about that on the Dave Weckl thread, but the moderator said it was off-topic I think.