Originally Posted by Todd Sucherman
I see where you are coming from, but I still can say I don't think that way. In terms of putting a label on something, you know?. Why is that something that interests you? Why put a label on it? Again, what's easy for someone might be difficult for others. It's far from advanced in my mind if we are comparing it to Mahavishnu stuff or Vinnie with Holdsworth. (There…I just gave it some context.) So in that context, no…it's pretty simple... if you have developed the skills of groove, dynamic shaping, feel, and the necessary ingredients to give it that lope. Now, in the context of just that---those are some skills needed to play well which would have advanced leanings. See what I mean? I say just enjoy the work, work hard, put it in your vocabulary bag and move on to other things that interest you. But declaring a performance as hard or easy is purely up to the individual attempting it.
Thanks for taking the time to articulate your thoughts on this topic and to respond to my thoughts. I do see your point of view and I have a great deal of respect for it.
I don't think I could comprehend even the listening portion of the Holdsworth or Mahavishnu programs, let alone dream of playing them, so, yea, certainly Vehicle is not at a level of technical mastery or meter mastery as those types of things.
You did touch on the items where my suspicions lie relative to the subjective "difficulty" in Vehicle though....and just the "lope" part is something I would say is not easy to come by. There is a certain touch to the kick drum and rhythm to the basic groove that I find very compelling....and that force one to work on some nice foundational skills. Some more "technical" and seemingly more difficult songs were, in the end result (and lots of work), seemingly easier to learn and play and that is where the questions started coming from about Vehicle.
The only reason I like to label something like that is to get a feel for how I'm progressing and what level I'm at or approaching....that's all. Let's call it milestones for mechanics ;-)
Again, thanks very much!