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Old 09-30-2013, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Trying to convince myself to keep playing Remo

Originally Posted by Emmaticus00 View Post
One I first got my drum set, it had Hydraulics. I didn't know how to tune at all, so I started whacking 'em. I didn't have any extra cash, so I tried electrical tape, post it notes, switched some stock reso which was something like a Smooth White (made the overtones worse). I hated the look of all those tom marks so naturally I heard about Coated Emperors being the most durable head ever. I didn't realize that I love low, full toms; I got the exact opposite with the Emperors. They were pingy and all I heard was the sound of the stick hitting the drum. I love the look of Pinstripes, but when I heard about Evans 360 I just wanted them so bad. I put my old Hydraulics on again, and actually tuned them with a torque key, and they sound so great!

So my question is: I've had Evans for forever; however, at my school they love Remo and they sound great; should I keep with my Hydraulics and what combo would make a deep full sound?
Maybe I got the wrong head for my cheapies, I have honestly no idea what I should do.

Oh, fun fact: I had those same Hydraulics for 3 years before I switched them out, so I can't keep them for long
Okay. I read this a few times and honestly, I feel I need to make an intervention. I don't know quite where to start, and I have two rather potent IPAs in my system, so I might ramble a bit.

I started where you did, except my heads were Ludwig Silver Dots. Tape, tissue, bits of drumhead, all the tips to make drums sound like the records. But the drums on the records sound like the ones we hear in real life before the engineers get their mitts on them. So throw that idea straight out. Your drums with overtones will sound great to the audience or to the microphone. Honest.

Overtones are part of what make a drum project. Make it cut through the extraneous noise that is your guitarist and bass player and get to the audience. DO NOT inhibit these overtones.

Step out in front of your drums with your deadened Hydraulics about 15-20 feet and have one of your chums play them. Notice how they sound like wet paper bags instead of... well, drums?

The things you describe tell me that you are still working through learning to tune and to hear the drums for themselves.

Torque key? Only in drum corps, man.

Do a search for tom, snare, and bass tuning here on the forum, do some experimentation, and learn to love those overtones. Those are the true voice of the drums speaking out and being real.

Your snare will find a happy home at medium to high tensions (with the snare side being pretty high), your toms will find a sonic sweet spot with heads either in sync or with resos a little higher than the batters (and mostly unmuffled -- maybe a spot of gel here or there), and your kick will be a big booming tunnel of sonic thwap if you get the backside at a medium-low tension and the front a bit higher and boingy, in my opinion. But play with it. Play with each drum. Stop wadding stuff on the heads. Let them ring.

My two cents -- bin the Hydraulics and give the Emperors/G2s another go.
Al Parrott
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