Re: Can there be free will in a world where pre-destiny exists?
A fish on a line seems to sum it up in my simple mind. (in THIS story, the fish is female - thanks, Madge!)
The hooked fish can go upstream or downstream, while the fisher-person (Wink, Madge!) keeps turning her head, pulling her to her destiny. But, if the fish is strong, she could straighten the hook, tear it from her jaw or even break the line. No pre-destiny here.
A master angler always has a better bait, stronger tackle and a better presentation. And fish being the simple creatures that they are, they will take the bait sooner or later.
Of course, the fish could always beach herself on another riverbank or swim straight to the jaws of another predator exercising her ultimate free will. But at the end of the day, the angler will go home with fish in his creel.
My two pfenigs.