Originally Posted by T-1000
When jazz drummers get creative, it flows beautifully and is oh-so 'musical', is it not?
When rock drummers get creative - whoopsidaisy, they just 'killed' the groove.
Nope. Jazz drummers are quite capable of killing grooves too. Go watch some locally, you'll probably see a fair bit of it. And rock drummers are capable of being creative without killing grooves too - look at Matt Chamberlain or Tim Alexander. Creative, flowing and musical.
This isn't a jazz-vs-rock thing, it's a drumming well versus not drumming well thing. And I'd tend to think those two clips below are an example of both.