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Forum: General Discussion 09-07-2018, 10:37 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 642
Posted By cemguvener
Re: how to learn a jazz tune

Very practical and helpful tips. It is surprising how much it helps for understanding the progressions, just singing the root notes along with the recordings. Sometimes seemingly obvious solutions,...
Forum: General Discussion 08-27-2018, 10:44 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 527
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Soloing in time, issues

All the advices are directed to "keep it simple".
While fully agreeing with the approach musically, I would have another suggestion to practise:

Put on the click but only on 1's each bar. Sing...
Forum: General Discussion 08-23-2018, 10:16 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 642
Posted By cemguvener
Re: how to learn a jazz tune

Thanks for all the answers.
On a jam session, it happens all the time that somebody starts a tune I have never heard. I also play that but of course not as comfortably as I would like to. Imagine...
Forum: General Discussion 08-23-2018, 03:17 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 642
Posted By cemguvener
how to learn a jazz tune

Hi all. I wonder how you approach a jazz tune when learning.
Here is what I (try to) do:
1-Learn to sing the main melody of the complete chorus (no emphasis on precise intonation to keep it easy)...
Forum: General Discussion 11-21-2017, 11:34 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 638
Posted By cemguvener
melodic or rhytmic quotations in drum solos

Hi,
For no particular reason, just out of curiousity, I am looking for examples of rhythmic or melodic (most likely just the contour of the melody, regardless of pitch) quotes to songs (other than...
Forum: General Discussion 07-24-2017, 04:14 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,000
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Elvin Jones solo in Monk's Dream - Unity by Larry Young

This may be the answer, but it seems extremely diffuclt to me. As far as I can follow, the solo has no rhytmical relationship with the melody. The phrases go over bar lines, use various strange...
Forum: General Discussion 07-19-2017, 10:51 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,000
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Elvin Jones solo in Monk's Dream - Unity by Larry Young

Thanks a lot. I will try again by listening to cymbal beats. It may help to understand.

I am aware of the transcription in John Riley book, in fact that's how I found the song.

But rather than...
Forum: General Discussion 07-19-2017, 10:59 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,000
Posted By cemguvener
Elvin Jones solo in Monk's Dream - Unity by Larry Young

It is supposed to be in time and follow the form of the song.
I tried to count, failed to follow, I mean failed badly...
I guess (hope) I am not alone. Any help?
Forum: Drum Technique 06-28-2017, 04:33 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,728
Posted By cemguvener
Re: desperately lost in the form of jazz songs

Very good advice. I fully agree that melody is the key to follow the form, not harmony.

BUT, I am still confused : if you sing the melody over and over again while soloists are soloing, does it...
Forum: General Discussion 02-11-2016, 10:20 AM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,887
Posted By cemguvener
Re: chord changes

:) indeed. Very interesting discussion though. Thanks to everybody who participated.
Forum: General Discussion 02-10-2016, 02:41 PM
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Views: 232,288
Posted By cemguvener
Re: What's your latest purchase?

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Forum: General Discussion 02-03-2016, 01:40 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,887
Posted By cemguvener
Re: chord changes

Hehe, nice :) There is always room for some sarcasm :)

Maybe the question needs to be put more clearly. You are certainly aware of the form (e.g. AABA) of the song you play. You don't exclusively...
Forum: General Discussion 01-28-2016, 01:51 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,887
Posted By cemguvener
Re: chord changes

Thanks for all the replies.

Indeed, there is also modal jazz which normally has very few chord changes, if at all. It is open to discussion whether you can talk about a harmonic structure in modal...
Forum: General Discussion 01-27-2016, 05:16 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,887
Posted By cemguvener
chord changes

Hi all,
A question to jazz drummers: When you learn a tune such as a standard, do you study the chord changes, or do you mainly rely on the form and melody when playing? If yes, does the specific...
Forum: Drum Technique 01-20-2016, 03:17 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,495
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Prof. Erskine gives a great lesson here...

I fully agree with that. However, I think what he is saying is not "play always simple". He says, "First, i.e. before adding fancy stuff, make sure you have really mastered the simple things. Because...
Forum: General Discussion 01-07-2016, 02:48 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,421
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Using the elbow for raising the pitch

What is wrong with using palm (or fist) instead of elbow or sticks?
Forum: General Discussion 12-09-2015, 10:22 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 2,737
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Live tempo perception.

I know many will disagree with that but in my opinion, when playing live the "correct" tempo does not necessarily need to be 100% stable. Depending on the mood of the band and audience, rushing or...
Forum: General Discussion 12-06-2015, 06:59 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,091
Posted By cemguvener
Re: kids drum workshop

We did the workshop today. Very tiring but fun :) The musical/rhytmical part of it was not a big success (as expected) but the kids learned a lot nevertheless. We all had very good time at least :)
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Forum: General Discussion 11-18-2015, 02:23 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,091
Posted By cemguvener
Re: kids drum workshop

Thank you very much for your valuable inputs.

I will try my best. One advantage I have is that most of them, including my daughter, already play an instrument; piano, violin, flute. So they are...
Forum: Drum Technique 11-17-2015, 10:19 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,647
Posted By cemguvener
Re: Sore left wrist

I also had a problem when I switched to french grip, some months ago. Not in my wrist but on the inner side of my right elbow. Rest and stretching helped.

What I understood is that playing accents...
Forum: General Discussion 11-17-2015, 12:13 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,091
Posted By cemguvener
kids drum workshop

Hello there,
This is my first post here. Very brief about myself: 44 years old, living in the Netherlands, electronic engineer, married, father of two girls. Currently amateur drummer, playing for...
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