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Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 04:24 PM
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I see it kind of the other way, like Steamer was saying about '2 minute hamburger culture' - often I find out culture hasn't developed the discipline to take the time to do the legwork in defining...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 02:52 AM
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I think that's a very important point "and it brings us back to do" as it was called into question weather that style of music is "jazz" and to whose satisfaction and what really constitutes "jazz"...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 01:17 AM
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

and then to take the time to distill it and craft into a real definition and really challenge full understanding - that's another puzzle too

ain't no free lunch on either count (they are both...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 01:03 AM
Replies: 92
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

(I think you may be misunderstanding the purpose of that comment)

We're actually on the same wavelegnth (just different phasing probably)
my point there was they have DIFFERENT underlying forms...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 12:51 AM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

not to stray too far afield (which I've already done, so I'll shut up now - I think I've moved past utility)

but Sesame street had a great little riff on these sorts of things
...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 12:48 AM
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I do think it's something to clear up
I mean Hindustani music is about as improvisational as you are probably going to get and still have some sort of recognizable idiom
but I don't think "jazz" is...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 12:35 AM
Replies: 92
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

Not to worry man - definitions are part of what I have to do during the days (patents - I have to define, in a very structured manner, inventions)
and it can be a royal bitch

I mean, sometimes,...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 12:31 AM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

Well that and linguistics

(and don't get me wrong)I was actually looking at the structure of the definition, not disagreeing with the view. Coming up with solid definitions can be a real bitch -...
Forum: General Discussion 10-13-2009, 12:14 AM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

Yeah, that's the problem, it kind of relies on appeal-to-authority
as opposed to the definition
it's sort of the "I know it when I see it" riff

and if there is a disagreement between two...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 11:55 PM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

does seem like a useful narrowing of scope

though I do have the concern that with "understood jazz...foundation" we've created a self-referential loop in the definition
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 11:43 PM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

dunno that'd be one to run by Wynton (again, I'm just passing on the reference b/c there was call for one - I dig that a lot of times that's seen an implicit endorsement, but I'm an engineer married...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 10:50 PM
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Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

Wynton brought up an interesting point in the Tanglewood video series "Marsalis on music"

where (in the "Sousa to Satchmo" episode) he mentioned that, while many musics (like classical and...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 10:42 PM
Replies: 829
Views: 100,172
Posted By justjim
Re: The Big Kits vs. Small Kits Debate

ooh that's a tough one - I mean the guitar is one of those instruments whose design is pretty fluid (yup, even one string guitar)


and the guitar crowd has some of that same "oh that's too many...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 10:37 PM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I can dig that take on the name thing

ya know - I always found that a funny one.."punk"

in a lot of ways, I find Joey Ramone quintessential "punk" --
pasty guy with a "bad attitude" (not...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I've got one of those EH 2880s and have a lot of fun with it - though I never tried it with drums

(Natively, I'm a classic[al] guitarist ) man back in they day liked to use delays for "canon in...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 09:50 PM
Replies: 92
Views: 8,557
Posted By justjim
Re: Nu jazz and the future of jazz

I enjoy it (I've got a few St Germain CDs), I'm not super fully versed in it, but I think it has something to offer.

I think dairy has an nteresting take - elctro(nica) jazz hybrid - at least...
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 09:06 PM
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Posted By justjim
Re: The Big Kits vs. Small Kits Debate

nope!
reread my post more carefully
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 08:54 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,539
Posted By justjim
Re: If I were the leader of the band...

Here's a funky one - from a behavioral neuropsych perspective, the joke could have some truth to it.

in a word - neoteny
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,539
Posted By justjim
Re: If I were the leader of the band...

politics aside - that's damn funny
Forum: General Discussion 10-12-2009, 07:45 PM
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Views: 100,172
Posted By justjim
Re: The Big Kits vs. Small Kits Debate

I think "it depends"

now, admittedly I'm biased as I'm a heterosexual male

but I say (now, admittedly I'm biased as I'm a heterosexual male)

Gents - larger kilts
Fems - smaller kilts
Forum: General Discussion 10-08-2009, 10:09 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 7,717
Posted By justjim
Re: Close micing is cheating

Hey i'm with ya!
that's why I commented - just like drumming and sooo many other activities from fencing to software dev to house painting - it can take way way more time to debug than it can to...
Forum: General Discussion 10-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 7,717
Posted By justjim
Re: Close micing is cheating

I think many people got that point (that "cheating" can be cheat one's-self, and that can simply be a matter of where "the rules" were generated - could be internal/could be external. but could still...
Forum: General Discussion 10-08-2009, 06:51 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 2,510
Posted By justjim
Re: Eyes open, closed, or what?

I tend to keep my eyes open - that might come from my primary musical training being on classic[al] guitar with a lot of reading

that being said, I'm not sure I'm always "seeing" (as in my...
Forum: General Discussion 10-08-2009, 04:52 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 7,717
Posted By justjim
Re: Close micing is cheating

That's generally why it's done! :) but it does risk the effect we're taking about :(

Fox news is probably a good example of that (where there is often an impression of undue bias and viewer go in...
Forum: General Discussion 10-07-2009, 10:03 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 7,717
Posted By justjim
Re: Close micing is cheating

It's a hazard of using provocation as a method to invite conversation - it starts the convo with an inherent bias

I mean "I have read only a few remarks that got my point" itself is in conflict...
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