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larryace 03-04-2012 03:15 PM

Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
I'm going out to breakfast right now to the International House of Pancakes.
Just wondering if it is truly international.
Stupid, I know.

Mad About Drums 03-04-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
I have no idea Larry to be honest, but if you don't know where to go when you jumped that pond to Europe, be aware that I make excellent pancakes, no reservation bookings needed, the door will be open :))

Naigewron 03-04-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
I've never seen or heard of one in Europe, and American pancakes are in general not popular here.

Didn't see one during my three years in Australia either, for that matter.

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 04:16 PM

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Not in the UK, and American pancakes aren't popular here either. Luckily I get the occassional Bisquik box!

The I in IHOP is missleading!

GRUNTERSDAD 03-04-2012 04:58 PM

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International.....of course.

eddiehimself 03-04-2012 05:16 PM

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Given that I have never heard of it, probably not. Of course, it is possible that like many things, it exists in mainland europe but not the uk. Like those amazing chocolate curl cereals. The coco pops ones just aren't the same :(

larryace 03-04-2012 05:28 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Looks like the Mayor has his all powerful finger on the pulse...

But I think I might have a lawsuit here. All the IHOPS are in the Americas it seems. That does not smack of internationality in my mind.

If I have my way, the business will be renamed AHOP.

larryace 03-04-2012 05:32 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
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Originally Posted by Naigewron (Post 969689)
American pancakes are in general not popular here.

What's the closest thing then? Waffles? Do Europeans eat anything that is similar to American pancake for breakfast? Something that requires butter and syrup? The name of the chain, International House of Pancakes.... implies that pancakes are loved the world over. What is it about pancakes that doesn't appeal to the Euro-palette?

Naigewron 03-04-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 969723)
What's the closest thing then? Waffles? Do Europeans eat anything that is similar to American pancake for breakfast? Something that requires butter and syrup?

Nope, at least not that I know of. Europe is big though, and has loads of countries and cultures. Some countries might enjoy something similar for breakfast.

Norwegian breakfasts usually consist of a simple sandwich or some cereal. In southern Europe, people often eat toast, rolls and some pastry (like croissants), while in the UK a traditional breakfast is an assortment of fried stuff, like eggs, bacon, beans, sausages and fried tomatoes.

I don't think there's anything about pancakes that doesn't appeal to us, but with the exception of the UK the trend in Europe seems to be to avoid heavy breakfasts. I like American style pancakes, but I don't understand how you guys can stomach it in the morning; it just seems too rich to me. Doesn't it make you want to just lie down and go back to sleep instead of giving you the energy needed to start the day? To me it would make a lot more sense as lunch or even dinner or supper.

IHOP is about as international as the World Series, it would seem :-)

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 05:41 PM

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We do pancakes. But they're thinner and more plain. Maple syrup is less favoured. Sugar and lemon juice is the preferred option. Also France had crepes (thin pancakes) with chocolate spread or savoury fillings. Belgian waffles are a European thing, too.

larryace 03-04-2012 05:46 PM

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Sugar and lemon juice on pancakes? OK then. I'm not sure I want to try that, but OK.

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 06:03 PM

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I prefer maple syrup myself but believe me it is nice on a thin pancake. You'd like it if you tried it.

larryace 03-04-2012 06:08 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
I just might try your suggestion, one must keep an open mind. Thin pancakes, (crepe-like?) with lemon juice and sugar. Powdered sugar? Seems like granulated would make for a sandy mouth feel.

bermuda 03-04-2012 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 969716)

Actually, that last one just closed. I guess the old saying is true...

here today... Guatemala.

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 969741)
I just might try your suggestion, one must keep an open mind. Thin pancakes, (crepe-like?) with lemon juice and sugar. Powdered sugar? Seems like granulated would make for a sandy mouth feel.

Definitely granulated. It gives it crunch or just dissolves in the lemon juice. Crepe like, yeah. Egg, flour, milk (maybe a drop of water if needed). Check out british pancake recipes online, couldn't be more simple.

Pollyanna 03-04-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Netz Ausg (Post 969731)
We do pancakes. But they're thinner and more plain. Maple syrup is less favoured. Sugar and lemon juice is the preferred option. Also France had crepes (thin pancakes) with chocolate spread or savoury fillings. Belgian waffles are a European thing, too.

Mum used to make pancakes for us with sugar and lemon back in the day. Very nice. These days I make them for Dad with Philadelphia cream cheese and sultanas. Also nice.

I had no idea what IHOPs were. My first thought was some kind of Apple device ...

GRUNTERSDAD 03-04-2012 06:31 PM

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More than 99 percent of IHOP restaurants are operated by franchisees, who are independent business people. Our management belief is that an equity involved franchisee is very responsive to the needs of the guest. As of September 30, 2011, there were 1,532 IHOP restaurants located in 50 states and the District of Columbia, Canada, Guatemala, Mexico, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.


The original concept was a restaurant which featured various types of pancakes and similar foods such as crepes and blintzes from all over the world, offered at affordable prices.

keep it simple 03-04-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 969741)
I just might try your suggestion, one must keep an open mind. Thin pancakes, (crepe-like?) with lemon juice and sugar. Powdered sugar? Seems like granulated would make for a sandy mouth feel.

No Larry, they're very nice. Even better with lime IMO, but I am a bit weird ;)

Red Menace 03-04-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 969716)
International.....of course.

Hah! Figures there'd be IHOP's in Mexico. American pancakes a very popular there. Except south of the border they call them "hotcakes".

Naigewron, I think the American heavy breakfast comes from rural roots of farmers and laborers that wound need that heavy breakfast as fuel for the day. In the Midwest a popular breakfast is a steak usually with eggs or something on the side. I tend to just go with the lighter breakfast unless its a weekend and I have time to cook up something hearty.

CCdrummer 03-04-2012 07:02 PM

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I like to eat pancakes when I watch NASCAR. Actually I don't watch NASCAR, just trollin'.

Sorry Larry, as someone pointed out, they are truly international, they are opening one soon in my small hometown here in Canada. We recently just got a Fatburger as well, so there are two new options for healthy eating for me now.

Pollyanna 03-04-2012 07:02 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larryace (Post 969741)
I just might try your suggestion, one must keep an open mind. Thin pancakes, (crepe-like?) with lemon juice and sugar. Powdered sugar? Seems like granulated would make for a sandy mouth feel.

You're overthinking it, Larry, and it's just going to mess with your groove. Just do it. They're yummy. My preference is lemon and honey, though.

GRUNTERSDAD 03-04-2012 07:31 PM

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Are Belgian Waffles really from Belgium??

8Mile 03-04-2012 07:51 PM

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The best pancake chain I've experienced in the U.S. is the Original Pancake House. We have one in suburban Detroit that I visit a few times a year. http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/

They serve the lemon and sugar variety. It's a huge portion that fills a dinner plate and they call it the Dutch Baby. It's not a pancake in the traditional sense, but it's awesome.

http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/.../php_dutch.jpg

DrumEatDrum 03-04-2012 07:53 PM

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A the Mayor pointed out, IHOP is not international because of it's locations, but because of it's attempt to offer international menu.

Crepes derive from french menus. German pancakes (i.e. potato pancakes). They used to (maybe still do) offer the thinner pancakes with lemon and sugar. Although I think over the years the international aspect became smaller and smaller aspect of the menu. The "international" aspect certainly is not what made the chain popular.

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 8Mile (Post 969781)
The best pancake chain I've experienced in the U.S. is the Original Pancake House. We have one in suburban Detroit that I visit a few times a year. http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/

They serve the lemon and sugar variety. It's a huge portion that fills a dinner plate and they call it the Dutch Baby. It's not a pancake in the traditional sense, but it's awesome.

http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/.../php_dutch.jpg

Certainly puts the 'CAKE' in pancake...

bigbang 03-04-2012 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bermuda (Post 969746)
Actually, that last one just closed. I guess the old saying is true...

here today... Guatemala.

HEEYOOW.....good one

I prefer Denny's myself....anywhere I can get Grits for breakfast...I'm in.

Stalwart_Pandora-Chris 03-04-2012 09:54 PM

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In the UK we just have a simple breakfast really which usually consists of cereal or toast with orange juice or tea/coffee. Our cereal produce is also 90% whole grain. We don't really have any sugar-coated cereals (like in the US you guys have Froot Loops, Lucky Charms etc. etc.).
The sweetest cereal I've tried is called Krave which is like oat/wholegrain pillows with hazelnut chocolate in the centre. That's probably the sugariest thing we have as a cereal, haha!

But I'm very lucky if I have pancakes for breakfast. It's abit rare for us though I make them every couple of months. You guys are a little more sweetoothed than me. Again, I've been to US a good few times (maybe about 9 times). I've tried IHOP twice and the pancakes are great, but I make better homemade crepe's. Also, the I is definitely misleading. There aren't any IHOPS anywhere I've been outside of America. Alot of places in Europe don't even have a KFC and Italy doesn't have pizza hut (and I'm sure alot more countries won't either). We also don't have a single taco-bell or long john silvers.

Europe is way more healthier and balance diets better than America I think haha! We don't have many fast food places, apart from McDonalds in every street corner. But nobody really goes there, more people goto KFC or Burger King.

MaryO 03-04-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad About Drums (Post 969686)
I have no idea Larry to be honest, but if you don't know where to go when you jumped that pond to Europe, be aware that I make excellent pancakes, no reservation bookings needed, the door will be open :))

Note to self: pancakes at MADs next time I just happen to find myself in Europe....

Florian 03-04-2012 10:37 PM

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IHOP = International hangout of police

around here anyway.


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Florian 03-04-2012 10:39 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bermuda (Post 969746)
Actually, that last one just closed. I guess the old saying is true...

here today... Guatemala.




BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
(the peanut gallery has spoken)


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Naigewron 03-04-2012 10:50 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
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Originally Posted by Red Menace (Post 969760)
Naigewron, I think the American heavy breakfast comes from rural roots of farmers and laborers that wound need that heavy breakfast as fuel for the day.

We have farmers and labourers in Europe too, you know :-P

But yeah, I can see where it's coming from, but if I ate a stack of American pancekes before heading to my desk job I wouldn't be able to start my day until noon :-)

Netz Ausg 03-04-2012 10:52 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalwart_Pandora-Chris (Post 969834)
In the UK we just have a simple breakfast really which usually consists of cereal or toast with orange juice or tea/coffee. Our cereal produce is also 90% whole grain. We don't really have any sugar-coated cereals (like in the US you guys have Froot Loops, Lucky Charms etc. etc.).
The sweetest cereal I've tried is called Krave which is like oat/wholegrain pillows with hazelnut chocolate in the centre. That's probably the sugariest thing we have as a cereal, haha!

But I'm very lucky if I have pancakes for breakfast. It's abit rare for us though I make them every couple of months. You guys are a little more sweetoothed than me. Again, I've been to US a good few times (maybe about 9 times). I've tried IHOP twice and the pancakes are great, but I make better homemade crepe's. Also, the I is definitely misleading. There aren't any IHOPS anywhere I've been outside of America. Alot of places in Europe don't even have a KFC and Italy doesn't have pizza hut (and I'm sure alot more countries won't either). We also don't have a single taco-bell or long john silvers.

Europe is way more healthier and balance diets better than America I think haha! We don't have many fast food places, apart from McDonalds in every street corner. But nobody really goes there, more people goto KFC or Burger King.

I have to beg to differ - McDonalds in ALWAYS busy, where ever you go. KFC is definitely more niche, and neither offer the kind of breakfast stuff that McDs do (BK breakfast - blech!).

We also have the English Breakfast (bacon, sausage <not sausage patty, but actual sausage>, fried/scrambled eggs, mushrooms, black pudding, baked beans, toast) which the Americans pretty much do also, though instead of black pudding and beans you're more likely to get grits and hashbrowns or some such.

eddiehimself 03-04-2012 10:53 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalwart_Pandora-Chris (Post 969834)
Europe is way more healthier and balance diets better than America I think haha! We don't have many fast food places, apart from McDonalds in every street corner. But nobody really goes there, more people goto KFC or Burger King.

I wouldn't be sure about that, on either count. I think McDonalds is most certainly the market leader in fast food places in this country, otherwise they wouldn't be on every street corner ;) . Also I think the gap in how healthy (or unhealthy) we are compared to the states is narrower than you think, especially in scotland.

caddywumpus 03-04-2012 11:36 PM

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Geez, Larry! Stop wasting our time! This is what the search function is for...

Pollyanna 03-04-2012 11:40 PM

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http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/.../php_dutch.jpg

This is not a pancake - it's a cake (at least by Oz standards). My pancakes are about 5mm thick.

Who eats a whole cake for breakfast? Answer: very big people.

Pocket-full-of-gold 03-04-2012 11:58 PM

Re: Are there IHOP's in Europe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Naigewron (Post 969729)
IHOP is about as international as the World Series, it would seem :-)

LOL!! That was my first thought too. ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 969882)
This is not a pancake - it's a cake (at least by Oz standards). My pancakes are about 5mm thick.

Definitely. I have no idea what the hell that is Pol, and even less desire to find out.

Larry, we do have the Pancake Parlour here in Oz. Ate there once as a kid and still feeling it's effects 30+ years later. A greater serving of disgusting slop masquerading as a pancake, I've never seen. Truely horrible.

Like Pol, if we have them we make our own. My daughter loves 'em and I'm quite partial myself. Alas real maple syrup costs an arm and a leg here.....have to be content with the pretend stuff usually.

Bo Eder 03-05-2012 01:08 AM

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If I got to Europe (or any where else for that matter that's not the continental US), I'm not sure I'd be looking for American places to eat. I'd want the whole experience of eating different foods in different cultures (to a point, of course).

I do think IHOP is lying about being international, though.

jonescrusher 03-05-2012 02:05 AM

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pancakes in the UK are wht's known as crepes in France the thin variety that you smother in lemon and sugar and roll up, beautiful, but only eaten the day before Lent starts. We have scotch pancakes which are similar to the american pancake. Never been sure on that butterfat stuff you guys put on them though.

jonescrusher 03-05-2012 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo Eder (Post 969911)

I do think IHOP is lying about being international, though.

Speaking of which, why are the Superbowl winners known as 'world champions'?

GRUNTERSDAD 03-05-2012 02:10 AM

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Because they are the best in the world. Granted they have no other competition, but the fact remains.


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