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DayDrummer 12-12-2011 09:21 PM

Hearing protection?
 
So let me hear what you guys are using, I hate wearing them but Im a Air Traffic Controller so I NEED to be able to hear. Right now im using some winchester orange things there has got to be a better way out there.

Fuo 12-12-2011 09:41 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I use Etymonics MC5's w/ the foam eartips (~-40db). More comfortable and better isolation than the old Vic Firth headphones, and only slightly more $.

Mad About Drums 12-12-2011 09:44 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I wear ear protection at my day work as it is a noisy environment, however, I never wear any ear protection at the drums, except headphones when practicing along music or in the recording studios.... (aheem! ...sorry, I didn't catch that, can you repeat it please?)

DayDrummer 12-12-2011 09:51 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuo (Post 926136)
I use Etymonics MC5's w/ the foam eartips (~-40db). More comfortable and better isolation than the old Vic Firth headphones, and only slightly more $.

Great thanks, Are this what your talking about?
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Resea.../dp/B003S3RFIQ
If so how is the music quality?

Fuo 12-12-2011 09:54 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Yup those are it.. And they dropped $10 too... I can't say much either way about music quality... I only use them while drumming and I'm listening to a metronome at least 80% of the time...

DayDrummer 12-12-2011 10:05 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuo (Post 926142)
Yup those are it.. And they dropped $10 too... I can't say much either way about music quality... I only use them while drumming and I'm listening to a metronome at least 80% of the time...

Ok thanks man. My message is to short so stop reading this.

kettles 12-12-2011 11:02 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I use some of these, Peltor H10A muffs - http://www.peltor.com/peltor.com/non...od_num=H10A001

http://www.aearo.com/prod_images/H10A.jpg

They are AWESOME. They make everything sound huge and naturally compressed. Not boxy like cheaper earmuffs do, these are totally different. I think they have some kind of dual-shell design which is why they sound the way that they do. Also super comfortable. I can't recommend them enough, for a low price convenient option. See if a store will let you buy them and return them if you don't like them. I got mine from a specialised safety store.

For earplugs I use silicon gel plugs from the pharmacy. It's like a putty that you roll into a ball and stuff it in your ear. Very comfortable, and sounds much more natural than foam plugs. I have to buy a new box of them about every 6 months, but I would probably wreck or lose any proper 'musician' plugs in that time anyway.

Bo Eder 12-13-2011 12:52 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kettles (Post 926172)
I use some of these, Peltor H10A muffs - http://www.peltor.com/peltor.com/non...od_num=H10A001

http://www.aearo.com/prod_images/H10A.jpg

They are AWESOME. They make everything sound huge and naturally compressed. Not boxy like cheaper earmuffs do, these are totally different. I think they have some kind of dual-shell design which is why they sound the way that they do. Also super comfortable. I can't recommend them enough, for a low price convenient option. See if a store will let you buy them and return them if you don't like them. I got mine from a specialised safety store.

For earplugs I use silicon gel plugs from the pharmacy. It's like a putty that you roll into a ball and stuff it in your ear. Very comfortable, and sounds much more natural than foam plugs. I have to buy a new box of them about every 6 months, but I would probably wreck or lose any proper 'musician' plugs in that time anyway.

I have these as well. They are the standard Peltor shooter's headphones, but GK Music turns them into the GK UltraPhone, which is retrofitted with Sony MDR-7506 headphone drivers. Imagine being able to listen to your favorite music at a nice comfortable not-too-loud level, while shooting a gun (or playing your drums) - these were a God-send to me ten years ago when I began mixing bands from behind the band (I had to hear what I was sending out in to house).

But for standard ear protection, I like the disposable foam ear plugs (the bright orange ones). However, since I sing so much with the band, I've been using either the Shure E2c in-ear monitor, or the newer Shure SE315's. With a mixer next to me, I can control how loud the signal is coming into my ears and keep it comfortable. Once you fill up your ear, sounds from the outside can't come in, forcing you turn up over them. That's the biggest thing with in-ear monitors.

Deathmetalconga 12-13-2011 12:59 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I just use a standard pair of hearing protectors, suitable for firearms or noisy work environments. You can get these for $10. I don't think there's any reason to pay more for hearing protectors.

I usually do not wear any when I am with a band, just for practice.

Toolate 12-13-2011 02:26 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
http://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Please-F.../dp/B001FXRIHE

cheap and quiet. Some may say they are too quiet but you can just push them into your ears a little less. Fit in the pocket and dont make your ears sweat or look funny.

hvymtlmike 12-13-2011 02:33 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation headphones. Great iso headphones, can still hear the kit and it sounds good, with the capability of hooking up to metronome/music/etc. And for only 58.99 absolutely awesome!

HoM3R 12-13-2011 10:49 AM

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I never understand how in-earphones like the Etymotic Research and Shure have around 40dB isolation and the isolating headphones like Vic Firths have around 25dB. Also the custom molded in-earphones are around 25dB. I think it has to do with frequency but I dont understand how it works sitting behind a drumkit.
I assumed that a kit is around 120dB and that reducing it to 80dB instead of 100dB is better, but I know this to be false. My experience is that with the in-earphones 40dB I get sick from the noise when I play like normal (pretty hard with energy). The in-earphones 40dB with a cheap construction headphone 20dB over it works for me but I like to have some in-earphones that dont make me sick when hitting hard. Do you need a custom molded for that?

dmacc 12-13-2011 11:48 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
For the last 10+ years I have been using the Westone Custom Made ES49's plugs with the easy to pop in and out (but not fall out accidentally) Etymotic ER-15 Filter. The ER-15 provides a uniform flat 15 dB of sound reduction from 125 Hz through 8 kHz.

There are other filters available that block more or less sound. The 15's are the most appropriate for musicians.

Mine are clear in color and it's hard for anyone to see they are even in.

BabyBob 12-13-2011 01:29 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmacc (Post 926387)
For the last 10+ years I have been using the Westone Custom Made ES49's plugs with the easy to pop in and out (but not fall out accidentally) Etymotic ER-15 Filter. The ER-15 provides a uniform flat 15 dB of sound reduction from 125 Hz through 8 kHz.

There are other filters available that block more or less sound. The 15's are the most appropriate for musicians.

Mine are clear in color and it's hard for anyone to see they are even in.

Nice, wounder where can I get 'em....

Lunar Satellite Brian 12-14-2011 02:08 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I'm just using acousticly formed noise reduction earbuds.

They work great, I actually prefer the sound than the music earplugs, it also reduces the sound more.

dmacc 12-14-2011 02:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyBob (Post 926409)
Nice, wounder where can I get 'em....

Call some of your local hearing & speech centers. Several around here does. I think if you go to the Westone site, they have more info on that as well.

It's a fairly easy process, a little expensive but couldn't imagine using anything else.

BabyBob 12-14-2011 03:46 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmacc (Post 926746)
Call some of your local hearing & speech centers. Several around here does. I think if you go to the Westone site, they have more info on that as well.

It's a fairly easy process, a little expensive but couldn't imagine using anything else.

Alright. Thanks for the reply!!!~

marko138 12-14-2011 05:29 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
At home when I play I use Winchester ear muffs. When I'm playing live with the band I use foam ear plugs. Always have. It's much easier to hear what's going on with ear plugs than without.

drumr_102 12-14-2011 07:23 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hvymtlmike (Post 926267)
Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation headphones. Great iso headphones, can still hear the kit and it sounds good, with the capability of hooking up to metronome/music/etc. And for only 58.99 absolutely awesome!

That's what I use, but I think they're a bit too quiet. I can hear the bass guitar really well though so I kinda like that, but it's not a natural sound from the drums or guitars.
I've definitely gotten my 60 dollars out of it though. It's good for listening to music while playing acoustic drums, band practice in general, metronome practice, and I use it on my electric kit.

I've even used them when I mow and tractor work to listen to music

tard 12-14-2011 09:23 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I just use my shure ear buds, hooked to the ph4w unit when im at rehearsal or live, or plugged into my ipod when learning tunes.

marko138 12-14-2011 09:26 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmacc (Post 926387)
For the last 10+ years I have been using the Westone Custom Made ES49's plugs with the easy to pop in and out (but not fall out accidentally) Etymotic ER-15 Filter. The ER-15 provides a uniform flat 15 dB of sound reduction from 125 Hz through 8 kHz.

There are other filters available that block more or less sound. The 15's are the most appropriate for musicians.

Mine are clear in color and it's hard for anyone to see they are even in.

What does something like that cost?

dmacc 12-15-2011 02:33 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 927091)
What does something like that cost?

As I recall, it was about 150.00. The filters are like 35.00 according to the Westone site.

Doctor Dirt 12-15-2011 02:39 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Move the backline amps forward and adjust your monitor for your personal needs. If the guitar amp is in back of you and too loud ask him to move it forward so you can live your life pain free. If he won't move it for him and/or find musicians to work with who care about one anothers needs. Drums move back backline moves forward, easy and done!! Doc

piercent 01-12-2012 06:30 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
3M just published an article on hearing protection with a section specifically on musician's ear plugs. It also covers topics such as how to care for and clean them. Thought it might be of use.
http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techartic...eCanBeLoud.pdf
http://www.newark.com/ear-protection

blastbeatkeeper 01-12-2012 08:25 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I use 3M FirePlugs at practice. For gigs, nothing.

mediocrefunkybeat 01-12-2012 08:29 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blastbeatkeeper (Post 941620)
I use 3M FirePlugs at practice. For gigs, nothing.

Gigs are often much louder. In the past I was guilty of this too but I've certainly changed my tune in the few years since purely because the ringing in my ears was so bad that I couldn't sleep. Fortunately I didn't do it for too long and my hearing is still better than average.

blastbeatkeeper 01-12-2012 09:02 PM

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I do agree completely that gigs are louder. I cut concrete for 7 years, and didnt use hearing protection for about 3 of those 7 years, so my hearing has been damaged for the better part of 4-5 years. The ringing is always constant(see tinnitus). The ringing doesnt last very long after a gig, depending on how close I am to the stage for the other bands, and the size of the venure were playing that night.

mediocrefunkybeat 01-12-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I have family with Meniere's disease so I know all about tinnitus! I would still advise you to wear hearing protection at gigs (especially if it's more than once a month or so) or else what hearing you have left will just get worse. I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I lost my hearing.

mikeyhanson 08-09-2012 12:21 PM

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...digging up an old thread.....

I need crash cymbals pretty bad, but I needed these guys even worse:

Just got them yesterday.

BigDinSD 08-09-2013 08:14 PM

Hearing Protection- What R U all using nowadays?
 
Did some research here and found this to be a popular option so I picked some up:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=REG&A=details

I use these when I'm jamming alone or along with a song that's amplified in the studio.

I can tell that the volume level has dropped when I use them, and the frequency ranges are still somewhat clear. Almost too clear that I wonder if they actually are helping?

What do you all use nowadays if you're playing alone?

*These are the Etymotic ER20's

Souljacker 08-09-2013 09:08 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I use Peltor Optime III's for practicing and band rehearsals. I wear Etymotic ER20's when playing live.

BigDinSD 08-09-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Souljacker (Post 1169155)
I use Peltor Optime III's for practicing and band rehearsals. I wear Etymotic ER20's when playing live.

Cool. What I'm using too above.

lowdowner 08-09-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
These:

http://www.acscustom.com/uk/index.ph...=139&Itemid=44

ultra-comfortable and very neutral. i wouldn't play without them...

BigDinSD 08-10-2013 03:05 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lowdowner (Post 1169187)
These:

http://www.acscustom.com/uk/index.ph...=139&Itemid=44

ultra-comfortable and very neutral. i wouldn't play without them...

Hey-those look cool! Thanks for the website. I was trying to review.

Are they custom fit? I saw the different models. Do those numbers mean the decibal rating? Do they have a US distributor for us Yankees?

skod 08-10-2013 03:36 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I've been using the Norton Lee Sonic Ear Valves since the 70s, if I'm not using some sort of in-ear monitoring. I've got something like 10 pairs of them. They don't make them anymore, apparently, but there's something similar out there: http://www.earplugstore.com/health-e...ear-plugs.html . Basically $10, and they've worked well for me for years. I also got a set of their small silicone molds for my wife, so there at least used to be different sizes. These are really old school, but they work pretty well: they aren't the highest attenuation, but they do allow you to hear conversation pretty well. Any custom mold will beat them- but your mileage may vary...

bosman 08-10-2013 04:08 AM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I always have a box of these in my truck. They last me a good while. I use them for everything. Shooting, loud shows, cutting grass, practicing, teaching. They are invaluable.

http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-...I18XV9YFM3FMFK

BigDinSD 08-10-2013 05:14 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bosman (Post 1169287)
I always have a box of these in my truck. They last me a good while. I use them for everything. Shooting, loud shows, cutting grass, practicing, teaching. They are invaluable.

http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-...I18XV9YFM3FMFK

Actually, those have a decent NRR. When practicing, don't they block out certain frequencies and muffle the tones?

Zickos 08-10-2013 05:37 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
I will be attending the local Big Beat this November and those can't be attended without ear protection. I have been using the ear plugs that can be bought in a music store which seem to work ok, but I also plan to listen to some music through some isolation head phones. Can/should these be used together or should I take out the ear plugs when I use the head phones?

BigDinSD 08-10-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zickos (Post 1169403)
I will be attending the local Big Beat this November and those can't be attended without ear protection. I have been using the ear plugs that can be bought in a music store which seem to work ok, but I also plan to listen to some music through some isolation head phones. Can/should these be used together or should I take out the ear plugs when I use the head phones?

Where/when will you be using the head phones? At your music event?

BigDinSD 08-10-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Hearing protection?
 
What have you guys found that has a high NRR (at least 25??) and still gives clarity of your frequencies? (without muffling them)


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