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Messerschmitt 07-06-2011 02:38 AM

New guy in here!
 
Hey there guys,
I`m new in here, even tho i`ve been following the forum for a while. I decided to show you my kit, so as not to be a stranger. I must admit, i`m pretty ashamed showing my humble kit between all these fancy Tama`s, DW`s and others. I had a veeery tight budget when i started, so I didn`t really have a choice. I`ve started drumming almost two years ago, beginning with Rock, then going further towards Metal, and now I began expanding my horizons, as I learned all kinds of stuff, Reggae, Blues, Latino, etc. and got my kit last summer. It was a basic, cheap, low-end, Millenium MX222, in black finish. I was as happy as hell when it arrived.I knew it ain`t that much, so when I had some extra money , i started buying other stuff, so as to make my dream-kit. (don`t we all do that?). So here it is my current set-up:
22x16 Bass Drum
14x5,5 Steel Snare Drum
8x7,10x9 ,12x10 ,13x11 Tom Toms,16x16 Floor Tom
14''Millenium Hi-Hats and Crash, 16''Millenium Crash and Paiste PST3 Crash, 20''Millenium Ride
Custom and experimental hoe, sounds nice
Temporary Djembe
All hardware is Millenium, except two cymbal stands wich are home-made
All heads are stock, except Remo Powerstroke 3 on bass drum and Remo Emperor on 12'' Tom. Lack of money, eh...
Sorry for my grammar errors, past tenses are not really my friends...
Enough with the talking, here are the pictures!
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1866/p7050171.jpg
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8379/p7050174.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5282/p7050173.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1081/dsc00006qk.jpg

SOGdrummer 07-06-2011 02:45 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Welcome to Drummerworld! Your kit looks like a lot of fun to play, doesn't matter what kind of kit you have, it's the drummer that makes the music. Sounds like you are expanding your musical interests as you expand your kit!

Enjoy your kit and have fun! Welcome!

Messerschmitt 07-06-2011 01:17 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Regarding musical interests, it`s not just that. After a while, i started considering 4/4 rock grooves "pretty easy", so i needed something more challenging. Also, my teacher plays mostly funky-fusion-jazz stuff, so that was an influence, too.
It is, indeed, very fun to play! I`ve got some big future plans (new reso head for Bassdrum, 14''Floortom, a splash, etc) but i`ll have to wait until i have enough funds. Overall, i`m pretty happy with it, only that peope make fun of it for being a no-name kit, even though it sounds really good! My only dissapointment is the snare. I`ve never liked the sound of a steel snare, it`s too ringy for me, that`s why i use a sound control ring. Also, the heads are pretty bad, they get out of tune very quickly, and i`m planning to replace very shortly at least the batter head. The biggest problem is the shell, which is out of round, and i don`t really have a clue how to fix it. i`ve read over the forum that steel shells are easy to fix, but i`m afraid to do it without proper instructions. Do you think you can help?

Pass.of.E.r.a. 07-06-2011 06:52 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Sorry, but I'm not seeing any pictures...

Might be just my computer though if SOG can see them.

-Jonathan

Bo Eder 07-06-2011 07:10 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Welcome! But I'm not seeing the pictures either.

Messerschmitt 07-06-2011 10:50 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
I`ve had troubles with Postimage before. I re-uploaded them with Imageshack, hope you guys can see them now :|

AtomicFlapjack 07-07-2011 09:45 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Pictures are working fine for me, so I guess you've fixed it. What I like about your kit is you've got it set up so it's all an nice angles and easy to reach. Nothing off at random angles with massive gaps between each other. Your English is very good by the way! And remember, never be ashamed of your drum kit - A great example of why you shouldn't be

harryconway 07-07-2011 11:39 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Messerschmitt (Post 862865)
....i`m pretty ashamed showing my humble kit

No need to be ashamed ... most of us started out .... well .... not playing DW and Tama .... my first kit was a Japanese stencil kit. Welcome.
Since you're using a ring on your snare, you might wanna try a coated Evans HD Dry snare head ... I have one of those on my Yamaha steel snare ... and on my Pearl Omar Hakim ... really nice, versatile, snare head ...

Messerschmitt 07-07-2011 12:19 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Thanks for the nice comments! I`ve seen Leo and his kit before, really impressive!
The only thing that is not that well placed is the hoe (it`s on the left cymbal stand).I sometimes hit the cymbal from underneath when playing it. It may seem foolish, but it has a nice sound, say, like playing a ride while muting it.Short, crisp and metallic.It works really good for funky!
Regarding the snare, I`ve played on a bunch of snares, some steel, some wood, and with various heads (coated and not coated) and the one i liked the most was Remo Controlled Sound, coated.It gives that "whack!" sound with as little overtones as possible.I like my toms very resonant, but I like short, punchy snare and bassdrum sounds. Also, I keep my snare prety low-tuned compared to my friends, it doesn`t have such a sharp, high-pitched sound. As i`ve said before, the biggest problem is the shell, wich is out of round, and i have to tighten the heads pretty much just to get rid of the wrinkles, so that`s the first thing i want to fix before buying any head.
My god, did I write this much again?!

Messerschmitt 08-10-2011 11:18 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Hey there, guys!
Here`s some new pics with my beloved ones:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7...cn1510copy.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/586/dscn1514c.jpg

As you can see, i`ve got myself (finally!!) the Gretsch reso head i`ve always wanted and a Remo Controlled Sound snare head. It`s been a pain saving the money, but it`s well worth. The reso head is thick and coated, and it also has a dampfening ring, just like the Powerstroke 3 on the batter head. That black thing around the hole is an add-on I got for strengthening and to make cutting the hole a piece of cake. It sounds amazing right now,and it looks even better then it sounds. What i`m missing now would be some wooden hoops, just as the Catalina model from Gretsch...
Also, the snare head is AWESOME! I managed to re-round the shell (wasn`t that much of a trouble) and i tuned just the way i like it. I can get that muted-like, almost-no-ring sound, even without any dampfening.I never taught i could get that much of the ring from a steel shell. Also, it has an awesome WHACK!, it`s loud as hell...
Also, i`ve changed the venue and finally got in a band, we play heavy-thrash-neoclassical metal... something like Malmsteen meets Bach meets Megadeth...pretty technical stuff.. We have our rehearsal room in a basement wich, as you can see, is pretty well soundproofed. Now, i don`t have that much reverb, so it doesn`t kill my ears after rehersals...
Let me know what you think :)

Razvan

harryconway 08-11-2011 09:23 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Messerschmitt (Post 876888)
...something like Malmsteen meets Bach meets Megadeth...

I thought Malmsteen was Bach meets Megadeth ...
Cool, the Gretsch reso head .... I have one of those ...
Pull those Millenium badge/stickers off the kit, and you'll just have a black "stealth" kit ...

Messerschmitt 08-12-2011 01:58 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 877084)
Pull those Millenium badge/stickers off the kit, and you'll just have a black "stealth" kit ...

I tought about that earlier, but they have a strange mounting sistem, looks like they`re riveted to the wrap or something... The badge on the snare is also riveted to the shell.I don`t know how they would look without the badges and with some "dots" on the wrap, so i guess i`ll keep them this way, for now. Or, i could flip the toms so that the badge faces the drummer, like i did on the 12" tom.
By the way, I just bought these today:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7568/dscn1519m.jpg
I don`t really have a clue how cheap used cymbals should be, but these costed me around 55 euros... I have no idea what they are stained with, but for now they`ll stay like this. I`m quite afraid of cymbal cleaning solvents, as i don`t like the idea of loosing the logos. I`ll give them a vinegar wash, through...

Mr.L 08-12-2011 03:19 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Messerschmitt (Post 877559)
I tought about that earlier, but they have a strange mounting sistem, looks like they`re riveted to the wrap or something... The badge on the snare is also riveted to the shell.I don`t know how they would look without the badges and with some "dots" on the wrap, so i guess i`ll keep them this way, for now. Or, i could flip the toms so that the badge faces the drummer, like i did on the 12" tom.
By the way, I just bought these today:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7568/dscn1519m.jpg
I don`t really have a clue how cheap used cymbals should be, but these costed me around 55 euros... I have no idea what they are stained with, but for now they`ll stay like this. I`m quite afraid of cymbal cleaning solvents, as i don`t like the idea of loosing the logos. I`ll give them a vinegar wash, through...

Piste 2002's are awesome cymbals!
Nice kit, it has a lot of charm and character. And hey, if those guys making fun of you on their Starclassics can't play half as well, you win! It's the player, not the bat/racket/stick. :)

harryconway 08-12-2011 09:00 PM

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I had a set of 15" black label 2002 hats ... excellent rock hats .... I bought 'em used, back in/around 1992 ... for $250. Played on 'em for 18 years ... and then sold them ... for $250. Can't go wrong with Paiste 2002's.
As far as dealing with your drum badges ... if you're handy with your computer, perhaps print a logo/cover/sticker .... something like this, perhaps ...

Messerschmitt 08-14-2011 02:15 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 877700)
As far as dealing with your drum badges ... if you're handy with your computer, perhaps print a logo/cover/sticker .... something like this, perhaps ...

Haha, good one,buddy!:D
I`m not thinking of getting rid of the badges, really. I don`t find the point of doing that and after all you fellas have told me, i sat down and taught to myself... It is, indeed, the drummer that makes the sound. Why should I be embarrased of my drums, if i love them and take great care of them?

Now, regarding the cymbals. I`ve always loved the sound of the 2002`s, so this is kind of a "dream come true" for me. I was expecting a brighter sound, but it`s still very nice sounding. I`ve compared it at the rehearsal room with my old Millenium brass hats and a set of Sabian B8`s and , even though the B8 have a more brighter and crisp sound, my Paiste hats really kick ass. If i could just clean that damn stains...

Messerschmitt 08-25-2011 11:39 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
OK, got some updates.
I`ve cleaned the 2002`s with Paiste Cymbal Cleaner AND have keeped the logos intact.. They cleaned out really nicely, but the stains appeared to be rust. I`ll give them another wash with cleaning agent, but I doubt i`ll be able to get the rust off.
Now, one question. I`v always loved the look of the wooden bass drum hoops of the Gretsch Catalina, laquered only on the outer edge.
I`ve got a friend who has a bass drum with wooden hoops, but they are in pretty bad condition.The drums have been neglected and abused, they`ve been scratched, bruised and god knows what else. Judging from the pictures below, i`d like an opinion from you guys. Is it worth trading my steel hoops for these ones and refurbish them? If yes, how can they be refurbished?
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4034/dscn1527m.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6797/dscn1531j.jpg

GRUNTERSDAD 08-26-2011 12:19 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
The fact that they are black makes them easier to refinish. Strip them down with liquid stripper or just sand them smooth and paint them with black spray paint and they should look fine. It may take a little time but will be well worth it.

areFish 08-28-2011 10:58 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Nice score on those hats! That shouldn't be rust because there isn't any iron in them. Must some other corrosion.

harryconway 08-28-2011 02:11 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
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I recommend Jasco for stripping paint ...

Messerschmitt 08-29-2011 11:09 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by areFish (Post 883911)
Nice score on those hats! That shouldn't be rust because there isn't any iron in them. Must some other corrosion.

Well, by "rust" i meant "heavy corrosion that won`t come off easily, as it is quite deep."

I started refurbishing the hoops, by sanding.I was affraid of using paint stripper as not to affect by any means the quality or strength of the wood. They have a couple of dents wich should be very easy to fix with wood glue, it should work good as a extremely-small surface filler. The thing is, I only noticed the bad part when i unflipped the donor drum: a pretty big wood chunk is missing, i guess it was from the area where the pedal has been screwed to the hoop. It`s pretty deep, as it went through the first ply of wood. I was thinking of making a filler compound out of wood glue mixed with sawdust, but i`m not that sure if it would work. Wood fillers don`t come in cheap... What do you guys think? :|

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4081/dscn1533k.jpg

Messerschmitt 10-22-2011 03:33 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Hey there guys,

I`m back again with some new stuff. Still looking for some ideas for filling the dents in the hoops, though...
As I managed to save some money, I finally bought myself a double bass pedal and some accesories (hi-hat clutch, falam slam and pedal bag) . They`re Millenium PD-222 pedals, they`re not much of a brand but they`re prety well engineered ( Rumors say it`s a DW-3000 copy, and I tend to believe that) I`ve played on such pedals before and i really loved them. Considered the fact I couldn`t afford something more "high-end" , I bought them. They`re worth every single cent, very adjustable and stable.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7846/dscn1596k.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1432/dscn1606t.jpg

I have a problem making even strokes. Somehow, the left strokes don`t sound as much as the right ones, or sometimes I can`t even hear them! Is it because of misproper pedal adjustment, or because of my left foot being weaker? Or maybe a combination of these two?

On the other hand... i`ve received as a gift some vintage drums (cca late 70`s) wich i`d like you guys to help me identify, but that`ll gotta be another thread.

Looking forward to your replies, hoping i`m not annoying :D

GRUNTERSDAD 10-22-2011 03:49 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
If these are your first double pedals my guess would be a weaker left foot. Try playing some hand rudiments slowly with your feet concentrating on technique and not speed. The speed will come.

Messerschmitt 10-23-2011 12:02 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 904501)
If these are your first double pedals my guess would be a weaker left foot. Try playing some hand rudiments slowly with your feet concentrating on technique and not speed. The speed will come.

Indeed, even though I have played double pedals before, these are my first pedals. My former experiences were just short bursts, not playing constant 16th notes or stuff like that. I`ve noticed I can`t go faster than 8th notes with my left foot, so practicing rudiments with with my feet should help. Also, I started playing various grooves with my left foot, to strenghten it. Pedal settings are even,both spring tension and pedal height, so problem solved :)

Messerschmitt 11-13-2011 01:35 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Here are a few pics with me having fun on my drumkit, and... some autumn "romantic" shots with me and my snare :D My girlfriend would be jealous now, lol

Note the new cymbal arrangement
And, yes, althrough i never did ( and never will ) clean my heads, i cleaned my snare ehad for the shots.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4372/dsc0425y.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4454/dsc0432b.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3310/dsc0469s.jpg

And something a bit different:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9043/dsc0304gd.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8226/dsc0352mp.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7599/dsc0416mk.jpg

Messerschmitt 01-10-2012 09:28 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Ha, who needs a Christmas Tree?

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8646/dscn1679i.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3285/dscn1672c.jpg

I had to take my babies back home, and i always wanted such a shot. Well, with a good camera, but nevermind. I wonder how tall this would be after i`d buy the 14"x14" floor tom :)

ZonderZout 01-11-2012 12:40 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Haha, I like that Christmas tree better than any I've seen so far! :o)
I can imagine your girlfriend go "WTF, how come WE never have our picture taken together!"

Pretty nice setup. Haven't heard of Millenium really, but who cares what brand or type it is, as long as you make it sound great; it's great! :o)
And it's black... so it's cool!

Messerschmitt 01-12-2012 12:44 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZonderZout (Post 940943)
Haha, I like that Christmas tree better than any I've seen so far! :o)
I can imagine your girlfriend go "WTF, how come WE never have our picture taken together!"

Pretty nice setup. Haven't heard of Millenium really, but who cares what brand or type it is, as long as you make it sound great; it's great! :o)
And it's black... so it's cool!

Thanks for the kind words. Millenium isn`t really a big brand, it`s about the same level as Basix, cheap stuff of mediocre quality. My kit is from the med-line of kits made by Millenium. The high-end ones are from 9-ply birch, laquered shells, rim mounting system for toms, bla bla. They make basically anything drum-related: hardware, bags, brass cymbals (comparable to Paiste PST3 !),sticks,brushes, electronic kits, even various percussion items. Also they have a pretty nice variety of snares, maple, steel,brass,carbon and titanium. Some of them would sound great, i think. Remember my philosophy : There are no "no-name" brands. Just brands that are not that well-known. That doesn`t mean they suck. :)
I had this stupid idea that it has to be a big-brand (Tama, Sonor, Pearl, etc) to sound good. Now, i`ve proven myself how wrong i was. It is, indeed, all in the heads and tuning.I know there are much better kits than mine. I just don`t care, i love mine, no matter what!

sticks4drums 01-12-2012 01:51 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Hey buddy. Nice pics outside. Need to get the whole kit out there next time. I see you like toms also. They are lots of fun. Good looking set up you have there. Congratulation!

Messerschmitt 02-01-2012 02:47 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
I`ve got myself a new baby!
Damn, it sounds so nice!
I got it used, but it just looks like new. Judging by the serial, it`s a 2003 made cymbal, so it`s been used a little, but it looks and sounds fabulous! I just can`t wait to be able to drum again and play this cymbal, I always wanted a 2002 splash. I bought it for 215 RON, that`s roughly 50 E, so i`d say it`s a very good deal!

Here`s a pic

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7771/dscn1689g.jpg

And together with it`s bigger and older brothers :D

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8010/dscn1693w.jpg

Messerschmitt 03-02-2012 06:19 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Here`s my set-up for quieter stuff... no rehearsal space for me for now so I gotta deal with it somehow. Given the fact I live at the 4th floor of a flat, drumming in the house is out of discussion, so this is all i can do. Downsizing from a 7-piece to a 1-piece is not really fun, but it`s better than nothing.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7942/dscn1695h.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7324/dscn1696iw.jpg

Messerschmitt 03-04-2012 08:05 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Here are two night shots of me, brushing outdoor in the city centre. (ignore the dumb face) Drumming outdoor is fun! :)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/953/dscn1722jf.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9640/dscn1724ei.jpg

Bogdan 03-04-2012 10:42 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Hi,can you post a video to see how yours drums sound especially the bass drum and the snare.Because i have these drums too and they don't sound to good.I have even change the batter head on bass drum with a evans emad and the snare batter head with a remo emperor x but they still don,t sound how i wish to.

Big_Al47 03-05-2012 03:54 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Enjoyed seeing the pics, thanks for sharing

Messerschmitt 03-05-2012 07:30 AM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogdan (Post 969861)
Hi,can you post a video to see how yours drums sound especially the bass drum and the snare.Because i have these drums too and they don't sound to good.I have even change the batter head on bass drum with a evans emad and the snare batter head with a remo emperor x but they still don,t sound how i wish to.

Hello Bogdan and welcome to the forum!

Unfortunately I have no mics in order to record them,all I have is this old recording for a song.You can hear the snare and bass drum pretty good.

soundcloud.com/irod-2/mother-russia-drums-only-mp3

Have you tried different tunings? EMAD's are very good heads and should sound very good if tuned properly,i have tried them myself. Try tuning them differently and see what happens. If you need any help, PM me.

Razvan

Bogdan 03-05-2012 03:26 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Thanks for the fast reply.Can you tell me how you tune your bass drum?

Messerschmitt 03-05-2012 09:00 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogdan (Post 970180)
Thanks for the fast reply.Can you tell me how you tune your bass drum?

Well, i tune my bass drum in a pretty non-standard way.
I have my reso head tensioned just above wrinkle stage, tuned to the lowest possible pitch, and then tensioned just a little bit more. The batter head is pretty tensioned, about 2 - 2,5 full turns of a key. I also have a Falam Slam that helps a bit for muffling but it`s not pretty much of a difference. I have a piece of sponge inside in case i need any more muffling but i don`t use it. Also, my head combo is Remo PowerStroke 3 for the batter head and a Gretsch logo head for the reso side, wich is exactly like a Coated PowerStroke 3.

For the EMAD wich is a bit thicker, you may not need to tension your head as much as i do. Also keep in mind that you have to tune the head and only then you should add the muffling strip. If you don`t like what you hear, keep trying different things, that`s the only way to find out how to get your bass drum sounding good.

Razvan

Bogdan 03-06-2012 05:30 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Thanks for help my bass drum sound better now.What about the snare?

Messerschmitt 03-10-2012 02:40 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogdan (Post 970761)
Thanks for help my bass drum sound better now.What about the snare?

My snare is tuned to the "typical" high tension snares. Reso head is mediumly tight (about 2 - 2.5 full turns) and the batter head is way up high (4.5 - 5 full turns). Share wires are pretty tight, also, to elliminate the buzz. The snare drum sounds fuller and louder than in the recording.

Messerschmitt 05-28-2012 07:16 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Hew pics, forum!
I`ve finally got myself a rehearsal space. Actually i`m sharing a friend`s one, but that doesn`t matter. All it matters is that i`m finally back in business and i can pound my babies again! Lol, that sounds weird!
Here are a few pics.Not much has changed, i just added a few bits and pieces and my ex-guitarist`s crash and hi-hats are gone. I`m still not sure whether i like the splash where it is(i`d like it between the hi-hats and the 8" tom), but i`ll find its spot after my cymbal boom arm arrives. Also, i`m not sure if its angle is correct, as i can see (or i think i see) stick markings on the splash. Is that because of the size of it, or because of a bad angle?

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6470/dscn2120w.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1892/dscn2115t.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/189/dscn2117u.jpg

And finally, a "driver`s seat" picture.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/917/dscn2118k.jpg

Messerschmitt 06-12-2012 08:46 PM

Re: New guy in here!
 
Some new stuff arrived:
I got my cymbal boom arm for the splash and got it where i find it to be the must comfortable. It really is better now :)
Also i bought a wonderful Stagg DH 16" medium crash cymbal, which is absolutely fabulous! Given the fact it is hand-hammered B20 alloy cymbal , it was a steal , considering it sounds a lot like big brand`s pro series.I took a friend with me when i bought them and he got a 17 inch crash and 18 inch china. I wanted them as well but couldn`t afford them, lol! Stagg are great cymbals, don`t be affraid to check them out!

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7470/dscn2144p.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1741/dscn2146l.jpg


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