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bobdadruma 04-16-2011 07:06 AM

Quitting Smoking
 
I just wanted to announce to you all that I have been restructuring my life as of late.
One of the things that I have finally done is to quit smoking!!!
I have smoked a pack a day or more since 1974.

I did it cold turkey without the help of any gum or patches.
It has been three weeks and I feel great!
The first two days were rough but after that it got easier with every passing day.
Why I didn't do this 30 years ago???

If I can do it, You can! All that it takes is for you to make up your mind that enough is enough.
It is so nice not to have that monkey on my back anymore.
I feel free as if I have been reborn.

If any of you are thinking about quitting I urge you to give it a shot. You won't be disappointed.

It's kind of funny, I still sometimes check my pocket for the pack of cigs in the morning before leaving the house for work. I always laugh to myself when this happens.
It's not because I want a smoke, It's just habit. You know, Keys, Wallet, Cell Phone, Cigarettes.
Old habits dye hard.

caddywumpus 04-16-2011 07:32 AM

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Congrats! That's incredible!

My sister had to get hypnotized in order to quit (she doesn't have very strong will power...). I commend your stremph, Bobda! Kudos!

Pollyanna 04-16-2011 07:39 AM

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Well done, Bob.

I'm a hopeless nicotine addict. My mum was a chaino all her life until she died at age 72. I seem to have taken after her.

I quit last year but I'm still addicted to the gums and lozenges. Once I quit for 2 years, using gums and lozenges, but fell off the wagon. Another time I quit for one year.

What you did was not as easy thing!

GRUNTERSDAD 04-16-2011 07:43 AM

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The key, like you said, is to get rid of the habit ones first. First thing in the morning with coffee, after a meal, while having a beer etc. Once you get rid of those, then the just for the heck of it ones come easier. Congrats. Now do the math on what a pack costs times 365 days and plan your next vacation.. At 4.00 x 365 you are looking at over 1400.00. Nice vacation fund. Congrats.

Ian Williams 04-16-2011 07:48 AM

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Well done, Bob. I admire your inner strength and good-will of doing it!

sticks4drums 04-16-2011 07:52 AM

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I have to laugh at the fact that Cigarettes are legal. They do so much harm to so many people, and are so addictive, yet the government says ok because they get the tax. Same thing with alcohol, yet they make marijuana illegal. What a bunch of hypocrites.

I am very glad to hear that you were able to quit that terribly addictive substance. Hopefully polly and others will be able to give it up also. It is a complete waste of money, health and time. Guess I am a little bit passionate about this topic. Sorry. :)

con struct 04-16-2011 07:58 AM

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I came down with pneumonia in January and was sick for almost two months. It was one of the biggest breaks I've ever had. I was so sick that I just couldn't possibly inhale cigarette smoke, so I quit smoking without really going through the withdrawals. It's been two months now without a fag and I will never go back.

Yes, I gained some weight. That I don't like so much. But I no longer wheeze, there's none of that funky yellow gunk to cough up. It feels like my lungs have doubled in size.

And I'm no longer spending absurd amounts of money lining the pockets of big tobacco.

Congratulations Bob. It's like being a new person, isn't it?

Cyannetica 04-16-2011 08:10 AM

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I'm currently struggling with quitting right now. Stressful days at work really break my will. I've only been smoking half a pack a day for 6 years, but it's still a challenge. I commend you on your strength and wish you continued success with it.

Pollyanna 04-16-2011 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyannetica (Post 828849)
Stressful days at work really break my will.

YES!! .................................................

Pocket-full-of-gold 04-16-2011 09:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 828840)
At 4.00 x 365 you are looking at over 1400.00.

Hey Pol......4 bucks a pack!..........4 Bucks!!!!

Christ, I'm gonna lie down and have a good cry.

Well done Bobby!! One of these days I'll contemplate, thinking about, addressing the posibility that I may give 'em away. :-)

larryace 04-16-2011 09:27 AM

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Take that RJ Reynolds!

Glad to hear it Bob.

You da MAN dog!

BassDriver 04-16-2011 11:23 AM

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Smoking is not just a habit it is a physiological addiction, your brain becomes a slave to nicotine...those kind of addictions are hard to break.

Good job that things are working for you.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and so the process of stopping something that kills you will make you a happier person at the end of the day.

Quote:

I have to laugh at the fact that Cigarettes are legal. They do so much harm to so many people, and are so addictive, yet the government says ok because they get the tax.
The government basically has smokers by the balls, the prices go (slowly by surely) up and up but since smokers are addicted they keep buying. Funny thing, in Australia some of the tax from cigarettes goes towards anti-smoking advertising.

I guess in the end of the day the health care costs outweigh the tax benefit the government gets.

Pollyanna 04-16-2011 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BassDriver (Post 828895)
I guess in the end of the day the health care costs outweigh the tax benefit the government gets.

Some years ago I did an analysis based on the reported health costs. Then I checked the tax revenue and it was much, much more. Now that smoking has reduced and the black market has built up, maybe that's change.

There's this cute gimmick where they attribute just about every other condition and death to smoking. Trouble is, people die anyway. Further, there's no taking into account the fact that a high percentage of the health budget is spent on intervention in people's last weeks of life. Everybody who doesn't die suddenly incurs this cost, whether a smoker or not.

Smoking does incur its own costs but there's a lot of false math going around.

As well, smokers die earlier than nonsmokers. Around 10 years earlier on average. Which ten years do they lose? The last 10. Nearly all the time society gets all the productive work out of smokers but pays fewer pensions than for non-smokers.

The sooner people die post-retirement, the better it is for the economy (less infrastructure costs, health burden, the person's estate flows on, no costs for seniior's cards etc). None of this is taken into account.

If governments were serious about reducing the number of cigarettes smoked they'd allow smokers to register as addicts so they could buy cigarettes singly. What makes it hard for every smoker trying to cut back (be it just a cutback or preparing to quit) is that if they crack they have to commit to a full 20 cigs (at least).

Obviously, the more stuff you put in an addict's hands, the more they will consume. I speak as a nicotine addict.

Trouble is, this would make it easier for pirate cigs to slip through the net and the govt doesn't get any tax for black market cigs. Hence the ban on singles (masquerading as preventing kids from buying them - never mind that it's illegal anyway).

Governments win brownie points for fighting smoking, but they are just grandstanding and pulling in tax $$.

bobdadruma 04-16-2011 05:23 PM

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Thank you all for the great responses.
I would also like to add that I have stopped drinking vodka.
I used to drink vodka almost every day.
I now only allow myself three beers max during the course of an evening when I am at a social event.
I have stopped drinking when I am alone.

I have also lost 10 pounds and my waist is slightly below 36 inches now.
I was at 38.

Recent personal events in my life forced me to take a hard look at myself and I didn't like what I saw at all.
Good things have already begun to happen as a result of the changes that I have made.
I can't elaborate any further at this time.

sticks4drums 04-16-2011 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 828964)
Thank you all for the great responses.
I would also like to add that I have stopped drinking vodka.
I used to drink vodka almost every day.
I now only allow myself three beers max during the course of an evening when I am at a social event.
I have stopped drinking when I am alone.

I have also lost 10 pounds and my waist is slightly below 36 inches now.
I was at 38.

Recent personal events in my life forced me to take a hard look at myself and I didn't like what I saw at all.
Good things have already begun to happen as a result of the changes that I have made.
I can't elaborate any further at this time.

Glad to here. The more you talk about it, the easier it will be to be accountable. That is what we are here for, Not to argue about double pedal this, and metal that, or Jazz this. Keep up the good work. The Vodka is usually just a crutch to help you get through the week. I find the drums a much more positive crutch. Two thumbs way up :)

Jim Mattingly 04-16-2011 06:05 PM

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Congrats, I very much admire your willpower. I recently went through a stint trying to use Chantix to stop. Had some really bad reactions to it and I am just now after two weeks stopping that pill getting over the side effects. I quit for 2 1/2 yrs. once and I am bound and determined to quit again. Never quit quitting. And 4 bucks a pack !! I wish, try $6.00 plus for the cowboy killers. Congrats again and hopefully I will not be too far behind you.

Pollyanna 04-16-2011 06:16 PM

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$12 is a cheap pack in Oz. Usually about $15. Heaps of tax on them by the govt, which is a great way of pretending to deal with the issue.

sticks4drums 04-16-2011 06:25 PM

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I'm sorry but it really pisses me off to hear about you guys struggling with this stupid unnecessary product. This is the second forum I have been on where it has come up, and so many of my drumming friends have told of their struggles. This crap is like trying to kick a hard narcotic. Yet it is sold for all to have. Anyone that can on here, please try and quit. Use this community as a sounding board, for the help you may need, along with other helps you seek. Do whatever you need to do to just say no.

bobdadruma 04-16-2011 06:28 PM

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I was spending $60USD per week on smoking.
I can have a new pro cymbal every month or a new car for that much cash.

In Connecticut cigs are around $8 a pack or more.

The thing is that I pass by at least 8 places where I can buy smokes just within 5 miles from my home.
That's what makes it so hard to quit. It is so easy to obtain.

Frost 04-16-2011 06:41 PM

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I used to smoke for eight or more years, I started around the time I was 14. I quit when I moved from regular cigarettes to the roll it yourself kind.

Initially it was a cost saving thing, they are far cheaper in Australia, but the fact they required more effort discouraged me from just lighting one up, especially while drunk.

In the end I just ran out of money due to problems with my job and cut them out due to necessity, I haven't smoked since (except for the odd one after a few beers).

Not the most inspiring story, but for those on the lower end of the income scale, I feel your pain when it comes to the expense of the things

bobdadruma 04-16-2011 06:49 PM

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That is an inspiring story Frost. You made a proper decision based on your financial status.
I have seen people blow rent and food money on vice's!

Frost 04-16-2011 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 828998)
That is an inspiring story Frost. You made a proper decision based on your financial status.
I have seen people blow rent and food money on vice's!

I'd like to think I could kick any addiction for the sake of a roof over my head and a hot meal, though the things you'd do for a beautiful woman...

bobdadruma 04-16-2011 07:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 829004)
I'd like to think I could kick any addiction for the sake of a roof over my head and a hot meal, though the things you'd do a beautiful woman...

By Vice's I was in reference to drinking and smoking. I have known many people whom have spent their last dollar on booze and smokes,

Frost 04-16-2011 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 829007)
By Vice's I was in reference to drinking and smoking. I have known many people whom have spent their last dollar on booze and smokes,

Yeah I know man, just making a joke (Sheens non coke addiction), kind of landed up not making a lot of sense due to missing a three letter word.

Grats on kicking the habit, I feel sorry for those people you know, my exes mother was the same way, it's horrible watching someone spend their last bit of cash before pay on some smokes when they have next to nothing to eat.

Pkaneps 04-16-2011 07:58 PM

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"Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times."

Seriously, good luck. I've never been a smoker but I know plenty.

GetAgrippa 04-16-2011 09:05 PM

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Congrats Bob!!! It is an example of the "indomitable spirit" of man. The chemical addiction for nicotine in your brain is powerful, and the ability to circumvent that by will alone to beat an addiction is a real tribute. I did the same thing some thirty years ago. I was a three pack a day guy so I curbed to a pack and a half (just the habit of smoking) and then went cold turkey. I took up chewing gum which bout drove my room mates insane-they encouraged me to start smoking again LOL. The only problem was suddenly food tasted insanely good so I packed on some pounds. But the silver lining was I took up walking then jogging then starting running like a maniac- endorphin-driven "run Forrest, run Forrest" (so I replace one addiction for another for a good ten years). I think the addictive personality is genetic. I had two siblings who could smoke and quit a will and then my elder brother and I struggled with about every addiction known to man. Fortunately the "indomitable spirit" thing again for me-sadly he is still addicted to everything. I wish I knew the answer.

larryace 04-16-2011 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 828979)
$12 is a cheap pack in Oz. Usually about $15. Heaps of tax on them by the govt, which is a great way of pretending to deal with the issue.

Love your irony Pol. Wow. I did not know this. I am officially flabbergasted. You can also add disgusted, angry, fed up. Did I mention angry?

F-in governments bleeding their people dry of money, ruining their health...it constitutes abuse of it's people in my mind. I never got hooked. I always hated the smell of it, never thought it looked cool, hated dating girls who smoked...there's nothing good about it. Eww.

Don't give your money to major corporations is a very real thing you can do to fight back.

Fuo 04-17-2011 01:07 AM

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Grats sir!

I'm in the same boat, I quit (cold turkey) almost 2 weeks ago (4/4 @ 9:00pm) after ~20 yrs at not-quite-a-pack-a-day. It's going well so far...

And yea, as someone above said, doing it when you're sick makes it a lot easier. Also, I don't (err... didn't) smoke in my car or house so that makes it easier too...

Frost 04-17-2011 04:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by larryace (Post 829063)
Love your irony Pol. Wow. I did not know this. I am officially flabbergasted. You can also add disgusted, angry, fed up. Did I mention angry?

F-in governments bleeding their people dry of money, ruining their health...it constitutes abuse of it's people in my mind. I never got hooked. I always hated the smell of it, never thought it looked cool, hated dating girls who smoked...there's nothing good about it. Eww.

Don't give your money to major corporations is a very real thing you can do to fight back.

Yeah, the Australian government has odd ideas about tax rates on certain items. We pay $15 for a pack of 25 smokes generally, and a six pack of beer costs between $15-20 outside of a slab. We do however have the best cheap wine in the world, you wont find a $5 bottle of wine outside Australia with the same quality.

bobdadruma 04-17-2011 06:31 AM

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I see that many of you either are, or have been in the same place that I am in right now.
At my age, If I didn't turn my life around I surely would have died in just a few years.
At least now I have a chance.
I was also making other people lives miserable. That is not the person who I am, or want to be for that matter.
I find that I can handle stress much better now because I don't look for the crutch of nicotine to mask the problem. I have the energy and patience to face the problem, look it in the eye, and solve it.
My friends all really love the new me and I feel a responsibility toward them not to let them down.
Its not just about me anymore! That is a wonderful feeling. I have the capacity to care about others.
My playing has improved immensely. The extra oxygen in my brain really helps.
I remember every stupid little thing now!

I would also like to take this opportunity to apologize to all of you for any of my stupid rants from the past that may have offended you.
I have apologized to many people recently and I have been forgiven. That really makes me feel good!

jodgey4 04-17-2011 07:05 AM

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Congratulations Bob, and to all of you have quit!

Zickos 04-20-2011 07:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 828826)
Why I didn't do this 30 years ago???

At least you did it now. I never smoked but my wife did. I hated it. She doesn't now and hasn't for a long time.

Congratulations on being a "clean air breather". Now, take some of that money you are saving and go buy some more gear!

inneedofgrace 04-20-2011 06:37 PM

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My brother's father-in-law died last year from emphasema and he was only in his late-60's. For decades he worked in advertising for a cigarette company and was a heavy smoker. He quit 15 years ago but it was too late, as the damage had been done to his lungs. For the year prior to his death he had to carry an oxygen tank around with him to breath. He was always out of breath.

Now my father has been diagnosed with emphasema and is out of breath after going up a flight of stairs. As did everyone, he smoked as a teenager and all through his stint in the military in the 1940s, before quitting in his late 20's. He hasn't smoked in over 50 years, but the damage was apparently done then as well.

I have never smoked, but I am afraid of the affect second-hand smoke has had on my lungs. Up until 15-20 years ago, people were allowed to smoke right in the office, and up until only 5 years ago people were allowed to smoke in restaurants (non-smoking areas were a joke). The casinos are still filled with smoke. In my teens and twenties I probably inhaled as much smoke as a smoker.

BassDriver 04-21-2011 07:13 AM

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Quote:

In the end I just ran out of money due to problems with my job and cut them out due to necessity, I haven't smoked since (except for the odd one after a few beers).
What is with the association between smoking and drinking alcohol?

I hope no one minds a little dark comedy about smoking from a smoker...

Bill Hicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2wST3eLBg

Metronome 04-21-2011 08:53 AM

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Congrats to all who have quit. I'm coming up on 3 years... I switched chairs on the titanic and got addicted to Nicorette.

wsabol 04-21-2011 04:46 PM

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This is just an ironic anicdote.. I have a friend from college who got reverse addicted to cigarettes. As a non-smoker he would chew Nicorette gum when he studied because the nicotine helped him stay awake. But 6 months into that habit he dropped the gum and picked up the cigarettes. Haha, the things people do for school...

Frost 04-21-2011 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BassDriver (Post 831156)
What is with the association between smoking and drinking alcohol?

I hope no one minds a little dark comedy about smoking from a smoker...

Bill Hicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2wST3eLBg

I honestly don't know, cool video by the way, Hicks was a legend.

I've wondered before if it's an Australian social thing due to the fact we associate almost everything with drinking at a certain age or if there is some kind of chemical link between the two.

wsabol 04-21-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost (Post 831321)
I honestly don't know, cool video by the way, Hicks was a legend.

I've wondered before if it's an Australian social thing due to the fact we associate almost everything with drinking at a certain age or if there is some kind of chemical link between the two.

I'm also not sure if their is a chemical link, but I know plenty of people who decided to "try" a cigarette at a party while they were drunk, ended up having 4 cigs that night, and have been hooked ever since.

inneedofgrace 04-21-2011 05:05 PM

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Same association between smoking and gambling. Many people sit down at the one-armed bandit or craps table and they chain smoke.

Frost 04-21-2011 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wsabol (Post 831325)
I'm also not sure if their is a chemical link, but I know plenty of people who decided to "try" a cigarette at a party while they were drunk, ended up having 4 cigs that night, and have been hooked ever since.

I know plenty of people that only smoke while drinking. It could have something to do with alcohol releasing inhibitions, including self-restraint from smoking, allowing that ever lingering addictive nicotine to creep up again.

Really I have no idea though, there is always an exception to break the rule, I know people who have never smoked outside a drink, and that I find bizarre, maybe the tastes compliment each other. I find cigarettes go well with most beer and you get the old clique of the whiskey and cigar.


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