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TheGroceryman 02-13-2011 02:13 PM

Key Changes
 
Does anyone else find that a well-placed key change can make a song just that much better?

Personally, I think Total Eclipse of the Heart is extremely well done...this is glee's version and its most noticeable from the transition between the first verse and the first chorus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d2HH...eature=related

Can anyone recall any other songs with exemplary key changes?

mediocrefunkybeat 02-13-2011 04:39 PM

Re: Key Changes
 
Many, but I can think of a great number with terrible key changes too.

Deltadrummer 02-14-2011 05:30 PM

Re: Key Changes
 
That is nice. I was listening to this song on the radio the other day that had a continuous key change at the end. But I don't remember what song it was. Here is one that does that nice modulation into the chorus. A lot of harmonic slip sliding. They should do this on Glee.

Spock's Beard Wind at My Back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFD6M3oSwUs


There's a reprise at the end of the piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTKYK...eature=related

inneedofgrace 02-17-2011 07:19 PM

Re: Key Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mediocrefunkybeat (Post 802123)
Many, but I can think of a great number with terrible key changes too.

Exactly - some key changes make the song come to life, while others seem unneccesary or awkward.

One of my favorite all-time songs is Band on the Run by McCartney, mostly because there are several changes during the song that really make it unique.

jingscrivenshelpmaboab 02-17-2011 11:47 PM

Re: Key Changes
 
Easy by the Commodores has a sweet key change at the end. It only goes up a semitone, so on paper it should be subtle, but it seems more drastic. That song also wins the prize for best backing vocals and harmony parts. They are so beautiful.

paistemage 02-18-2011 12:17 AM

Re: Key Changes
 
I like the Faith no more version of Easy.

mediocrefunkybeat 02-18-2011 12:17 AM

Re: Key Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jingscrivenshelpmaboab (Post 804037)
Easy by the Commodores has a sweet key change at the end. It only goes up a semitone, so on paper it should be subtle, but it seems more drastic. That song also wins the prize for best backing vocals and harmony parts. They are so beautiful.

Actually, theoretically, semitone changes are some of the least subtle changes you can make. The second key has almost no relationship to the first key. If you want to hear subtle modulation, try some Debussy. Changing to the V of V or even the V can be very, very subtle. This is where having a basic background in music theory comes in handy!

Pollyanna 02-18-2011 12:27 AM

Re: Key Changes
 
Damn, I always liked the semitone jump :)

I have very limited knowledge here (hence drummer jokes, I guess). So this might be a dumb question but I'm wondering about those wonderful bridges The Beatles used to do, were they usually key changes or just switching emphasis to the minor?

jingscrivenshelpmaboab 02-18-2011 01:43 AM

Re: Key Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mediocrefunkybeat (Post 804059)
Actually, theoretically, semitone changes are some of the least subtle changes you can make. The second key has almost no relationship to the first key. If you want to hear subtle modulation, try some Debussy. Changing to the V of V or even the V can be very, very subtle. This is where having a basic background in music theory comes in handy!

Theoretically, yes. In practice? Not always. Semitone changes can modulate to major/minor which is drastic, but a lot of the time, as with Easy, it depends more on the mode in which the vocal melody belongs.

And by V do you mean fifth? I dont do the numericals thing, and V of V?

Yeah, im doing my degree, and it always surprises people when the drummer (of all people) starts talking about key changes and relative minors etc :)


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