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Migaluch 11-04-2010 03:04 AM

I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
In my time as a drummer over the last two years (it hasn't been long, has it?) and on these forums, i have heard unlimited praise for the legendary band known as Led Zeppelin, but never took the time to download and appreciate their music. Everyone on this forum loves John Bonham, and i finally want to see why. Thing is, i don't know where to start, what the best songs are (other than Stairway to Heaven), and what i should be expecting. I have heard some Zep songs before, but i have not yet truly experienced them, sadly.

Can you guys help me? I need somewhere to start. I feel kind of ashamed to not be listening to such a renowned music group. :D

Red Menace 11-04-2010 03:08 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Buy or D/L Zeppelin 4 (AKA "Zoso"). It's the magnum opus. contains most of those tunes you hear on the radio all the time. Physical Grafitti is pretty good too. I have to reservations against the older stuff, just never got into it.

AnOasis 11-04-2010 03:12 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Listen to any of it! Bonham's most famous:

Good Times, Bad Times (Led Zeppelin, 1969)
Dazed and Confused (Led Zeppelin, 1969)
How Many More Times (Led Zeppelin, 1969)
Whole Lotta Love (Led Zeppelin II, 1969)
Rock and Roll (Led Zeppelin IV, 1971)
When The Levee Breaks (Led Zeppelin, 1971)
Trampled Under Foot (Physical Grafitti, 1975)
Kashmir (Physical Grafitti, 1975)
In My Time of Dying (Physical Grafitti, 1975)
Achilles' Last Stand (Presence, 1976)
Hots on For Nowhere (Presence, 1976)
In The Evening (In Through the Out Door, 1979)
Fool in the Rain (In Through the Out door, 1979)
We're Gonna Grove (Coda, 1982)

And of course, the most awesome drum solo EVER .... MOBY DICK!
But as I said, listen to it all ... Zeppelin was a fine group of musicians.

Migaluch 11-04-2010 03:15 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Im watching Moby Dick on DW rite now... freaking awesome. :D

cooldrummer95 11-04-2010 03:23 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
heartbreaker

good times bad times

whole lotta love

moby dick ----an absolute must!

travelin riverside blues

over the hills and far away

kashmir

black dog

dazed and confused

hey hey what can i do

babe i'm gonna leave you

since i've been lovin you

rock 'n roll

communication breakdown

the immigrant song

ramble on

these are all the ones i could think of without looking up led zeppelin songs or pulling out some albums.........moby dick features a drum solo, that's why it's an absolute must.....

Pocket-full-of-gold 11-04-2010 03:23 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
3 'must haves' to start with:

Led Zeppelin II
Led Zeppelin IV
Physical Graffiti

DrumEatDrum 11-04-2010 03:34 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
I'd say listen to Led Zepplin 1 and IV in their entirely.

But that's just me.

Skulmoski 11-04-2010 04:08 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldrummer95 (Post 761833)
heartbreaker

good times bad times

whole lotta love

moby dick ----an absolute must!

travelin riverside blues

over the hills and far away

kashmir

black dog

dazed and confused

hey hey what can i do

babe i'm gonna leave you

since i've been lovin you

rock 'n roll

communication breakdown

the immigrant song

ramble on

these are all the ones i could think of without looking up led zeppelin songs or pulling out some albums.........moby dick features a drum solo, that's why it's an absolute must.....

A couple of others that I like from IV are

Four Sticks
Misty Mountain Hop

GJS

DSCRAPRE 11-04-2010 04:20 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
A bit of a deep cut that you should look into: The Ocean.

Also make sure you hear "Hey hey What can I do" it's not on any albums but it's one of my favorites.

Zeppelin is great, enjoy the ride.

drums_n_surf 11-04-2010 05:49 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Listen to all the ones AnOasis mentioned, but start off with Achilles Last Stand. One of my favourite songs, mostly due to Bonhams driving force behind the kit.

Bo Eder 11-04-2010 06:42 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Actually, they don't have alot of albums (not like KISS with 38 albums in their catalog) - just budget and get all of them. I'm a big fan of the Live at the BBC collection.

Hell, wasn't it a big deal that they're available on iTunes now? You could go there and hear 20-second snippets of tunes too.

evolving_machine 11-04-2010 07:39 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
In the studio a band can take their time to get the material just right. They also have the ability to go back and edit the material until it is perfect. They have the ability to edit it live as well, but it is limited. A live performance shows what they are made of. This band was made of the best material out there.

I have been listening to "How the West Was Won." It came out in May 2003, from concert material from 1972 tour in California. This is really a good introduction to the band. Jimmy Page considers Led Zeppelin to be at their musical peak at this point. This is the best live recordings of Led Zeppelin, in my opinion.

The other live album is from 1973 tour, The Song Remains the Same. From NYC, Madison Square Garden, where they got robbed at the box office. They made a movie of this tour, but it is not as good as the previous year's tour. By the way, I was at the concert that night they got robbed at the Garden.

There is another set of live shows, the BBC Sessions. It was material from four different 1969 BBC sessions, and 1971 Paris Theater in London.

From these live recordings, you can see how the band progressed, and how good they were live.

alparrott 11-04-2010 02:38 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
There's an excellent box set that encompasses almost every song mentioned here. My ex-wife got it for me one year for Christmas... best thing she ever did for me.

Pkaneps 11-04-2010 02:39 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
A long, long time ago in a hosue pretty far from where I am now, I downloaded all their albums and put them on in order and didn't skip a song. To this day they remain my favorite band of all time.

bonzolead 11-04-2010 03:19 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Along with the above mentioned tunes I would also suggest "Sick Again", "Achilles Last Stand", "The Lemon Song", "The Crunge" & if you really want too hear Bonham Power not "Moby Dick" but "Bonzo's Montreux" The one song IMO that goes unnoticed by Bonham fans.

Have fun,
Bonzolead

double_G 11-04-2010 03:35 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
yes to all of the above. i really think you should learn "good times bad times" to truly appreciate his genius. also check out how the gear JB used & how he tuned w/ Jeff Ocheltree:

+ http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/j...cheltree1.html

this is also another good video treasure trove:

+ http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/John_Bonham.html

Deathmetalconga 11-08-2010 08:18 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Migaluch (Post 761813)
In my time as a drummer over the last two years (it hasn't been long, has it?) and on these forums, i have heard unlimited praise for the legendary band known as Led Zeppelin, but never took the time to download and appreciate their music. Everyone on this forum loves John Bonham, and i finally want to see why. Thing is, i don't know where to start, what the best songs are (other than Stairway to Heaven), and what i should be expecting. I have heard some Zep songs before, but i have not yet truly experienced them, sadly.

Can you guys help me? I need somewhere to start. I feel kind of ashamed to not be listening to such a renowned music group. :D

Walk into any hip espresso shop and within minutes, Led Zeppelin music will appear, as if by magic. For variety, they play the Beatles, too. It's like Christmas music during Christmas, except all year long.

It's embarrassing how overplayed Led Zeppelin and The Beatles are.

DSCRAPRE 11-09-2010 12:02 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga (Post 763425)
It's embarrassing how overplayed Led Zeppelin and The Beatles are.

I agree. I love Zep, but it's too much some times. At least they could play Gallows Pole for once instead of Black Dog 45 times a day!

Ian Williams 11-09-2010 01:15 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Albums:
Led Zeppelin II, III, IV, Houses of the Holy, The Songs Remains The Same (live).

cooldrummer95 11-09-2010 02:04 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
i have the "The Song Remains the Same" 2-disc dvd thing................trust me when i say it is magical.....it is them playing at madison square garden........

Pocket-full-of-gold 11-09-2010 02:08 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldrummer95 (Post 763541)
i have the "The Song Remains the Same" 2-disc dvd thing................trust me when i say it is magical.....it is them playing at madison square garden........

If you like that....do yourself a favour and get the Led Zeppelin DVD: http://www.amazon.com/Led-Zeppelin-R.../dp/B00008PX8P ....it's even better again.

Ian Williams 11-09-2010 02:59 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Believe it or not, I still have the original "The Song Remains The Same" double album, 33 rpm...a real nice antiquity!

Pollyanna 11-09-2010 03:13 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
DMC, it's been years since I've heard Zep or the Fab Four on radio. Maybe it's a US thing?

I bought a DVD of a Zep gig - late period because it included some tracks from Presence. Robert explained that he had some ailment and Jimmy P was recovering from "sleeping sickness". Apart from JPJ, they were all really sloppy - very disappointing.

I have another, much earlier, DVD of the band and they're in blazing form. On nights and off nights, I guess.

Pocket-full-of-gold 11-09-2010 03:41 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Williams (Post 763571)
Believe it or not, I still have the original "The Song Remains The Same" double album, 33 rpm...a real nice antiquity!

Same here.......in fact I still have all their albums on vinyl. No turntable to play them on, but I can't bring myself to get rid of them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 763584)
I bought a DVD of a Zep gig - late period because it included some tracks from Presence. Robert explained that he had some ailment and Jimmy P was recovering from "sleeping sickness". Apart from JPJ, they were all really sloppy - very disappointing.

What DVD and where do I get it? Can't be worse than some of the bootlegs I have. I want it.......sloppiness and all!!

DrumEatDrum 11-09-2010 05:54 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathmetalconga (Post 763425)

It's embarrassing how overplayed Led Zeppelin and The Beatles are.

I admit, I own very little Led Zeppelin, because every Zep song is played on the radio constantly. Any time I need to hear Bonham, he's right there on the radio.

bonzolead 11-09-2010 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum (Post 763638)
I admit, I own very little Led Zeppelin, because every Zep song is played on the radio constantly. Any time I need to hear Bonham, he's right there on the radio.

That's why I like LZ III & Presence you hardly ever hear any of those tracks except for "the immigrant song" which is fine because it's so badass anyway.

Bonzolead

nhzoso 11-09-2010 03:55 PM

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Physical Graffitti is my favorite Zep Album but I do love them all.

bonzolead 11-09-2010 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nhzoso (Post 763738)
Physical Graffitti is my favorite Zep Album but I do love them all.

I love them all also & PG would probably be the one I pick for a desert island since it's a double album LOL.

Bonzolead

Pkaneps 11-09-2010 04:14 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
There's a ton of Zeppelin songs I never hear on the radio. I guess it's not overplayed to me because I rarely listen to the radio anymore.

Ian Williams 11-09-2010 05:35 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
I fully agree on that mate! canīt get rid of them, they are part of you...in addition, I still have LZ I, IV and Coda.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 763594)
Same here.......in fact I still have all their albums on vinyl. No turntable to play them on, but I can't bring myself to get rid of them.

What DVD and where do I get it? Can't be worse than some of the bootlegs I have. I want it.......sloppiness and all!!


bonzolead 11-09-2010 06:08 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Williams (Post 763779)
I fully agree on that mate! canīt get rid of them, they are part of you...in addition, I still have LZ I, IV and Coda.

CODA: "Were Gonna Groove","Poor Tom", "Bonzo's Montreux". CODA was a nice surprise after JB passed.

Bonzolead

Ekim 11-10-2010 05:10 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Most classic rock stations seem to put their stuff on fairly often.

If you can't get a feel for them that way, you might want to get the Page / Plant "Unledded" video. It's a good introduction / overview to LZ's music. That's how I started. Then I bought the full boxed set.

Great stuff, lots of great gems in those 10 CDs.

dunn7458 11-10-2010 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekim (Post 763998)
Most classic rock stations seem to put their stuff on fairly often.

If you can't get a feel for them that way, you might want to get the Page / Plant "Unledded" video. It's a good introduction / overview to LZ's music. That's how I started. Then I bought the full boxed set.

Great stuff, lots of great gems in those 10 CDs.

Agreed. After I saw that I was listening to LZ's music constantly. I think that is what got me hooked.

Guz2 11-25-2010 06:35 PM

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Don't bother, listen to Rush instead.

Hercules 11-25-2010 11:11 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
There seems to be two groups of Led Zep fans - the ones who prefer the shorter rocky songs and the ones who prefer the extended songs - I fall into the latter group and suggest this shortlist:

Extended songs:
Stairway to Heaven
Kashmir
Since I've Been Loving You
In My Time of Dying
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
The Rain Song
Achilles Last Stand

Short songs:
Rock and Roll
The Ocean
Whole Lotta Love
Immigrant Song
D'yer M'ker


The boxed set DVDs are very good too.

nhzoso 11-26-2010 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Guz2 (Post 769433)
Don't bother, listen to Rush instead.

........DORK!!!......

Pocket-full-of-gold 11-26-2010 01:08 AM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nhzoso (Post 769538)
........DORK!!!......

LOL!!

One I couldn't see here (if it's been mentioned and I missed it, then apols).....check out Night Flight off Physical Graffiti. Definitely one of my favourite Bonham drum tracks.....makes the song IMHO.

Pkaneps 11-26-2010 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 769516)
There seems to be two groups of Led Zep fans - the ones who prefer the shorter rocky songs and the ones who prefer the extended songs -

Not me. I like them all. They're one of the few groups (if not the only group) I can listen to from Zep I to Coda without skipping a song.

nhzoso 11-26-2010 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkaneps (Post 769679)
Not me. I like them all. They're one of the few groups (if not the only group) I can listen to from Zep I to Coda without skipping a song.



+1.. Amen to that.........................

nhzoso 11-26-2010 02:57 PM

Re: I don't listen to Led Zeppelin... introduce me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 769548)
LOL!!

One I couldn't see here (if it's been mentioned and I missed it, then apols).....check out Night Flight off Physical Graffiti. Definitely one of my favourite Bonham drum tracks.....makes the song IMHO.


Yeah physical graffiti has a few where I listen to that bass drum and find it hard to believe he could play that with a single pedal.. The Wonton Song,and In my time of dying. Pffffttt',..Give me a break : )

I heard a very good tribute band last year and they played the Wonton song and I heard exactly where the drummer did not pull off the bass drum hits (:12--:14 and :23--:25 as I was actually waiting for it when they started the song.. I asked the drummer about it afterwards without being a dick and he said the only one's who notice are other drummers.. He has been working on it for a long time but not quite there yet and if he tries it and does not pull it off it throws his groove off and then the whole song suffers.

Good piece of advice actually, unless you own it in practice trying it in the middle of a song could be disastrous.


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