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larryace 06-28-2010 03:33 AM

Vintage cars
 
I don't know anyone who doesn't drool over vintage cars.
Being from America there's just a whole vintage car culture and I was wondering if people in the UK, Oz, and other non US countries, covet the same kinds of cars. I know nothing about really cool Austrailian cars, English cars, heck I don't even know if there was any cool cars in Oz.
So what's your top 3 all time favorite rides? Anything goes here, new, old, wacky, whatever
Hard to choose, but I would go with:

1965 Mustang 3/4 fastback
1965 Chevrolet Impala SS ragtop
1968 GTO with hideaway headlights

But there's so many others I like equally as well...
66 - 70 Chevelles, Challengers, 34 Ford 2 doors, 1960 Corvettes, heck almost any Corvette, 66 - 73 Camaros....

Are these world famous cars or are they just a US thing?

gwaco 06-28-2010 04:42 AM

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now we're talkin something i know about ! way to go larry !
including what you've put down how about these in no perticular order -
68 - 72 olds 442
66 L-79 chevy II
68 -70 chevy nova ( yenko , big block , ss350 )
68-70 mustangs ( mach-1 , boss , cobra jet )
anything with shelby on it
68 - 71 camaro ( long list !)
66-72 dodge charger ( r/t , 383 , 440 . 440+6 , hemi , daytona )
69 - 71 dodge superbee also 70 superbird
cuda & challenger
tran-am / firebird
amc - amx , hurst scarambler , javilin
buick - gs , gsx
the list goes on and on ..
as far as the great people from oz , i believe Holden would be a big one
for england , sorry don't mean to offend any british members but vintage wise - a ------nothin !
the thing is though any of the new cars that have come out within say the last 10 years will flat out perform the vintage muscle . i purchased a 04 gto brand new ( i miss that car ) took it to the track , let out the rear tire air pressure and ran a 13.8 completely stock . i've restored many older muscle cars and other than the nostalgic feeling for them i would prefer new muscle .
i'll scan some picks of cars that i've done when i get them scanned , i've had some that most have never heard of like cosworth vega ! that is something that england did have , great racing engines ala cosworth !

bobdadruma 06-28-2010 04:58 AM

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I used to like cars, Then I repaired them for 35 years. Now I couldn't care less!
Everything that has been made in the past twenty years just looks like a Toaster or a TV to me. They all look the same!
I got bored with the 60s cars years ago.
I never liked the 50s cars.
I hated the 70s cars
Forget the 80s.

I like drums much better!
I can smash drums and cymbals and they don't break.
Well, almost never break!
At least I spend more time playing the drums than I do repairing them.
Cars aren't like that! They are always broken or they need something.
I'll stay with drums.

Coldhardsteel 06-28-2010 05:48 AM

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I tend not to like the look of vintage cars, I'm a modern design guy.

New Camaro's, Corvettes, Challengers, Mustangs, all awesome.

The only "old" car I can name off the top of my head I can aesthetically appreciate is the Dodge Charger SRT, which looks good in a bright Hulk Green with black flames just so you know.

Gethsemane 06-28-2010 05:49 AM

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1963 Corvette
Actually, any corvette.

larryace 06-28-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 717052)
I used to like cars, Then I repaired them for 35 years. Now I couldn't care less!
Everything that has been made in the past twenty years just looks like a Toaster or a TV to me. They all look the same!
I got bored with the 60s cars years ago.
I never liked the 50s cars.
I hated the 70s cars
Forget the 80s.

I like drums much better!
I can smash drums and cymbals and they don't break.
Well, almost never break!
At least I spend more time playing the drums than I do repairing them.
Cars aren't like that! They are always broken or they need something.
I'll stay with drums.

That was priceless!
Sorry Bob me and gwaco will talk amongst ourselves as Malti says..
gwaco pics plz!

GRUNTERSDAD 06-28-2010 09:35 PM

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I would like a nice Gull wing Benz myself, or a 57 chevy or a 60 caddy with the monster fins.

TFITTING942 06-28-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 717303)
I would like a nice Gull wing Benz myself, or a 57 chevy or a 60 caddy with the monster fins.

The problem with a gullwing Merc is when it rains and you get in or out, the interior, and you, get wet. Cool looking but a real poor design. Just saw a commercial today for a new Merc Gullwing, new but still a bad design.

motojt 06-29-2010 08:19 PM

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I used to have a 1973 'Cuda 360, but I sold it to my brother who, in addition to mine, has a 100% numbers matching 1970 'Cuda 340. Off the top of my head, my top five in order would have to be:

1970 AAR 'Cuda
1969 Camaro
1970 Challenger T/A
1970 Mustang BOSS 302
1970,71 Maverick Grabber (no really)

I also have a weak spot for '68 GTX's. ;)

spantney 06-30-2010 04:13 PM

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I'm English but I have an unhealthy obsession with Vintage American muscle cars as do a couple of my friends. I think it stems from watching Gone in 60 seconds, Bullit and all those other films far too much. I'd literally give one of my testicles for the chance to own a Shelby GT500 ot 350. Big fan of 1969-1970 Dodge Chargers and Challengers, also love the Plymouth GTX around the 1970 models.

To be honest though anything that looks like a muscle car I'd love.

Where I live in England there is quite a big group of young guys that modify cars. Every saturday theres a massive gathering along the seafront to showoff their cars and whilst there are some quite nice japenese imports most of the cars are utter trash that people have made even worse by bolting a million amps worth of subwoofer to the rear.

Every so often a group of older guys with imported american muscle turn up to show them how its done and the look of sheer bewilderment, envy and inferiority on the others faces is absolutely priceless. Theres a couple of guys with replica General Lee's and you can hear the horns from my house which is about 4 miles from the seafront lol.

As for classic English cars that I'd like, the Ford Capri 3.0 RS is probably at the top of the list as its about as close to a muscle car we've ever got. Being an Essex boy I also love 'Cossies' or more commonly known as Cosworths. The Sierra and Escort Cosworths are very high up the list although only being 25 years or so old I'm not quite sure if they classify for Vintage yet!

Damn I love cars.....need more money!!!!!!!

TTNW 06-30-2010 04:48 PM

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My hands down favorite is the 1968 Firebird.

I had two of them.

The first one my Dad bought for my mom in 1968. Pontiac was selling them at the time for a $1 a pound. Nobody markets cars like that anymore.

It was $3,012 and weighed in at 3,012 lbs. It had a Ram Air IV 400 cubic in. 6.6 litre engine with the M22 4 speed and all the stock goodies (hood tachometer, Hurst shifter, rally wheels, rear spoiler) and came in that beautiful cobalt blue paint job.

My Dad bought it for my Mom so she could drive up the NJ Turnpike from DC for her dentist appointments. Don't bother asking, my Mom was a nuts about her dentists.

That car hauled ass. You could be going about 20-25 mph in second gear, floor it, and the rear wheels would just break free and burn rubber.

When I turned 16, I bought the car from my Mom and drove that car for years. In 1985, I bought another '68. Same specs, same features. $4,400.

My brother totalled that car and I never got over it. It was in near mint condition with only 50,000 miles. It would be worth close to $40,000 today.

I've had a love affair with that car for 30 years.

http://www.pauley.org/images/Firebird/Firebird01.JPG

Pkaneps 06-30-2010 05:42 PM

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I'm in love with old VWs.

'68 Karmann Ghia...god I would love one of those.
Pre '70s bugs and buses too.

keep it simple 06-30-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gwaco (Post 717046)
or england , sorry don't mean to offend any british members but vintage wise - a ------nothin !
!

You really can't be serious. Nothin! E type Jaguar. How beautiful do you want? I love the look of many vintage American muscle cars, but we prefer something that can actually go round corners (OK, I'll admit, the E type doesn't do corners either). But come on, really. Even to this day, most American cars have suspension taken straight from a hay cart, not to mention the interior quality that's clearly formed from recycled Betamax cases.

eddiehimself 06-30-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gwaco (Post 717046)
for england , sorry don't mean to offend any british members but vintage wise - a ------nothin !

WHAT!? You're having a laugh right? To name just 2:

http://www.prestigeweddingcars.com.a.../cars/jag9.jpg

Mark II jaguar convertible. I saw one of these the other day. Utterly epic.

http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news...rtin_db5-L.jpg

This is literally just 2 of my favourite. Maybe neither of these cars have the "drag racing" cred that you clearly covet (they're certainly not slow) but i think that to say england has not made a single cool vintage car is just a horrificaly ignorant remark.

It's a shame really because i was about to say how much i love american muscle cars but this has pretty much ruined this thread for me.

Pavlos 06-30-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldhardsteel (Post 717060)
I tend not to like the look of vintage cars, I'm a modern design guy.

New Camaro's, Corvettes, Challengers, Mustangs, all awesome.

That's modern design? Corvette - yes. Mustang - Maybe, but the Camaro and especially the Challenger are just updates to the retro. I especially hate the new Challenger. It looks like they took an old one and inflated it. It's a big heavy car.

My vintage picks would be

55-56 Chevy Nomad (something to carry the drums)
65 GTO - Tripower!
70 Chevelle 454
67-68 Camaro (hate the wings on the fenders of the 69)
Any Vette from the 50s-early 70s

And for an English car, how about the Ace from the 60s I think. That's what became the AC Cobra once they dropped in a real engine!

zambizzi 06-30-2010 07:09 PM

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I have *always* wanted a 60's-era Camaro. The new ones are being designed w/ a similar look but it wouldn't be the same.

There's a neighbor down the road who owns a large towing company and he's got a '66, I believe. Red with a white trimmed striped on top, front-to-back. It's the sexiest car I've ever seen.

motojt 06-30-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by keep it simple (Post 718027)
I love the look of many vintage American muscle cars, but we prefer something that can actually go round corners...

If you can't get a muscle car around a corner you're obviously not giving it enough gas. ;)

I appreciate this retro craze and all, but I don't want a car that has more computers in it than I have in my house. Being a software engineer that leaves a hell of a lot of wiggle room, but anything past 2005 is still shit outta luck. I like being able to fix my own car, man. What's that you say? Carbs aren't efficient? Eat a dick. At least I can fix the damn thing for under $1,000.

I know it's not necessarily in the same category, but I also like the early '70's Datsun 240Z. Drop a Chevy 350 in that little bastard and enjoy the crazy looks from innocent bystanders. And +1 to the AC Ace sans-sissy motor, otherwise know as the AC Cobra.

TFITTING942 06-30-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zambizzi (Post 718044)
I have *always* wanted a 60's-era Camaro. The new ones are being designed w/ a similar look but it wouldn't be the same.

There's a neighbor down the road who owns a large towing company and he's got a '66, I believe. Red with a white trimmed striped on top, front-to-back. It's the sexiest car I've ever seen.

Zambizzi,
The easiest way to tell the Camaro years apart is the 67' ( there was no 66, only the GM proto-type was a 66') has round parking lights in the grille as well as side vent windows on the doors. The 68 (which I had and restored) had rectangular parking lights in the grille and no vent windows. The 69" has 3 "gills" on the side in the rear quarter that look stupid and serve no purpose. Love the 67-68.

zambizzi 06-30-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TFITTING942 (Post 718098)
Zambizzi,
The easiest way to tell the Camaro years apart is the 67' ( there was no 66, only the GM proto-type was a 66') has round parking lights in the grille as well as side vent windows on the doors. The 68 (which I had and restored) had rectangular parking lights in the grille and no vent windows. The 69" has 3 "gills" on the side in the rear quarter that look stupid and serve no purpose. Love the 67-68.

Ah ha, thanks! I'll do some research. When I was a little younger, I wanted to rebuild one myself as a project. That'll never happen...so I'll find a fully functional one and buy it. I would like to learn how to work on it myself, though.

The new retro remakes have the "gills" too...they're ugly.

harryconway 06-30-2010 10:14 PM

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Back in the days of affordable gas (and high octane), I had a '67 GTO and a '67 442.

motojt 06-30-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 718102)
442.

Nice. The only other person I know who knows what the 4, 4, and 2 mean is my brother, The Car Guy. ;)

TFITTING942 06-30-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by motojt (Post 718117)
Nice. The only other person I know who knows what the 4, 4, and 2 mean is my brother, The Car Guy. ;)

400 fourbarrel 2 door, or i have also been told 400 4 speed 2 door

larryace 07-01-2010 12:17 AM

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Harry the 67 GTO rocks. I had a 66 Chevelle....I pity any teenager who doesn't have an old Chevy to hop up.

zambizzi 07-01-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 718136)
I pity any teenager who doesn't have an old Chevy to hop up.

I had a 'vette when I was a teenager.

...a Chevette.

SuperChief 07-01-2010 01:32 AM

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Love the GTO's with the stacked headlights. I know where there's on thats been sitting in a building for the last 20 years, AN Orange Convertible. Thought it was a 66. WIsh the guy would of parted with it 15 years ago before owning american muscle became so cool.

We were lucky growing up, I had a 74 Z-28, older brother a 70 Chevelle and my little brother scored with a 57 Bel Air. We were lucky to have a dad with a shop, handy to do anything needed to make the cars run and look nice.

I traded my Z for a 1977 F-150 shortbox 4X4 I wish I would of kept the Ford it was the best rig I've ever owned.

motojt 07-01-2010 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TFITTING942 (Post 718118)
400 fourbarrel 2 door, or i have also been told 400 4 speed 2 door

Sacrilege! Four barrel carb, four speed tranny, dual exhaust. Come on, man! ;)

Cottontop 07-01-2010 03:25 AM

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I own a 68 mustang :) my 1st car.

larryace 07-01-2010 07:03 AM

Re: Vintage cars
 
I heard the 442 was 400, 4 barrel, 2 wheel drive.

harryconway 07-01-2010 10:40 AM

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Actually ... 442 .... it depended on the year. My car was a 3 speed auto, so it was "defined" as 400 c.i., 4 barrel, dual exhaust.

TFITTING942 07-01-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by motojt (Post 718176)
Sacrilege! Four barrel carb, four speed tranny, dual exhaust. Come on, man! ;)

Just going by what my brother in-law told me. He had a new 67" 442 as a teenager. When my sister met him he had a restored 69" 442. Sorry for the mis-information, I will recind my car guy status...

I took the time to look it up this morning, your brother is correct.

larryace 07-01-2010 04:37 PM

Re: Vintage cars
 
TFIT, who is SM?

as in what would SM do?

Shelly Manne?
Steve Marriot?

TFITTING942 07-01-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 718384)
TFIT, who is SM?

as in what would SM do?

Shelly Manne?
Steve Marriot?

hahahahah Steve McQueen!

harryconway 07-01-2010 04:52 PM

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Indeed, both are correct. In '64, the car came with a 330 CID. So the nomenclature was for four barrel, 4-speed, and dual exhaust.
In '65, the car got the 400 CID, and options (like the notorious Hurst shifter/3 speed manual) or a 2 speed automatic made the 442 to mean 400 cu. inch, 4 barrel, dual exhaust.
The '66 you could even get with the six-pack (3 two barrel carbs), so the 442 really just became the name of the car, at that point.

larryace 07-01-2010 04:57 PM

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Steve McQueen. Very revealing. You're exposed!
Fav SM flick?

TFITTING942 07-01-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 718392)
Steve McQueen. Very revealing. You're exposed!
Fav SM flick?

Tough call for me. I liked Le Mans but certainly not for the story line (there was none).
Tie between Great escape, Mag. seven and Bullitt. Then maybe Thomas Crown affair.

Are you a fan Larry?

motojt 07-01-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 718392)
Steve McQueen. Very revealing. You're exposed!
Fav SM flick?

Please don't expose yourself on these forums. Or at least wait for me to join in the fun:
<====3#

bonzolead 07-01-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zambizzi (Post 718149)
I had a 'vette when I was a teenager.

...a Chevette.

that's too funny as a joke in between sets we used to auction off a 79 chevette turbo diesel w/ a trailer hitch LOL never had any takers.

my fav's are:

65 chevelle 396 of course
67 nova 327
63 corvette split-window
67 corvette 427
69 chevelle 396 (mom owned one very sweet)
70 Nova 402(pops owned one even sweeter)

if you can't tell i'm a Chevy guy, right now I have a 03 Monte Carlo I can put my drumset with gear along with my wife & go too any gig I want & at 29 mpg that's pretty cool too.

with the new camaro,challenger & mustang I like the retro look but in another sence i wished they would've kept developing new designs, that's one thing that is cool about the corvette not too say I wouldn't. take an 2010 Camaro SS they're about the best performance per dollar out there IMHO.

Bonzolead

gwaco 07-02-2010 01:00 AM

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wow , i popped of a little too quick !
eddie and kis , i do appoligize , truely . when i made that statement i was thinking about the spitfire i had totally rebuilt including the frame , all the work i put in to that car ( i even won trophies with it at an all british car show ) and it was still the worst car i owned . hell my parents even owned a few MG's , but there was always that one word that scared us LUCAS ...
and you guys pulled up a couple i forgot about , but forgot triumphs , healy , and i believe maclaren was/is british , but i did give props to cosworth . so i recind my earlier statement !
larry them pics are a comin , just have to sit and scan .......

gwaco 07-02-2010 02:01 AM

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here ya go larry -
1st car a 65 chevy 2 , hated the thing , talked my dad into trading me for the 68 ss elcamino .
that was the start of my restoring of cars . i was 18 at the time .

gwaco 07-02-2010 02:03 AM

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the challenger and the 70 superbee came in my early 20s , should never have sold the bee .... notice the long pistol grip shifter in the bee .


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