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diosdude 03-11-2010 11:30 AM

Do drummers make good dancers?
 
Okay, i'm not a social dancer 'cause i'm , well, FAT, not P-H-A-T, I'm F-A-T and i get all sweaty after a while on the dance floor. I have had numerous ladies say laughable comments to me like "wow, you're such a great dancer!!". I kinda just thought to myself, "eh... she's just being nice i don't know how to flippin' dance". But then i realized after hanging out in some clubs that there are guys that have NO coordination whatsoever in their bodies. That's why i think good drummers make good dancers. We already have innate timing built into bodily control, dancing just adds a couple other parts that we don't really utilize all that often. The rotating and gyrating parts that we don't use drumming are our hips/ flexors, rotating our shoulders and rotating our torsos. If you can do all those in time and learn some basic "steps", where and when to put your feet, you've got the basic recipe to be a good dancer. The bad, "epic fail on the dance floor" that i see constantly is usually from clumsy (or drunk, or both) dudes that have NO timing and NO independence. In a nutshell, good dancing comes from good TIMING and great dancing comes from great timing and independence from your hips, shoulders, elbows and lastly foot placement. Since drummers in general have great coordination with 4 limbs, they naturally also have coordination with "core" muscles.

Just an observation after watching some Steve Gadd and Marco Minnemann vids. I've noticed when those 2 guys start "getting down" on the kit they appear to be channeling some kind of mojo between their hips and shoulders that give them inhuman groove. Almost as if they're doing a samba in their seat while playing. I tried it myself, just doing a litlle bounce move from the hip while rotating the shoulders and surprisingly, while keeping time with my hips/ shoulders/ head-bob it tied in everything i was doing on the kit and made it feel natural, instead of just staying rigid and thinking about where my next fill was coming from and what sticking technique was i going to pull out of my bag of tricks.

Geri Attrique 03-11-2010 12:34 PM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
I was looking up info on this fabulous drummer on Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_C._Coleman

and Wikipedia sez "He loved to dance and was known for his laughter and sharp dressing." I can just imagine him on the dance floor! :)

I would hope drummers could dance well, but apparently not all can. I think I remember some music special on the telly saying that Alex Van Halen was hard to choreograph during the shoot for Hot for Teacher...but I cannot find anything on google verifying that...

Big_Philly 03-11-2010 12:48 PM

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I can keep time, but lack the elegance to dance properly. Elegance in dancing is not something you would learn from drumming.

Which reminds me: my ex-girlfriend thought it was impossible to dance to a rhythm. Dancing, according to her, is something you do to a melody.
Thank god we broke up...

Pocket-full-of-gold 03-11-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Geri Attrique (Post 674952)
I would hope drummers could dance well, but apparently not all can. I think I remember some music special on the telly saying that Alex Van Halen was hard to choreograph during the shoot for Hot for Teacher...but I cannot find anything on google verifying that...

No, apparently they can't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE. About 2.10 to 2.30 is what you're looking for.

Bastardo 03-11-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Philly (Post 674954)
I can keep time, but lack the elegance to dance properly...

Same here... I can also keep time with my arms, legs, hips, neck, whatever, when I'm on the dancefloor... But that doesn't mean there's any elegance present in my dancing at all... :) I look like a timber trying to stay up in strong winds... Elegant as a Pocahontas with hormone disorder... Matter of fact - all I can do is solo-dancing... Otherwise women I dance with either suffer or get hurt... :)

Pollyanna 03-11-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold (Post 674955)
No, apparently they can't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE. About 2.10 to 2.30 is what you're looking for.

LOL - he's a better dancer than I am. I'm more elephants than elegance, alas.

I was always the one making people dance rather than doing the dancing myself so I never had the chance to work out any moves. The only one I ever remember is The Snorkel, but that's over 40 years out of date ...

GRUNTERSDAD 03-11-2010 04:14 PM

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I loved to dance. Went to every dance in school, even some I wasn't suppose to. CYO dances also. Took social dance in college, Foxtrot, Walze, Jitterbug, Squaredance (yuk). Whether I was better than others because I was a drummer, don't know, but always had the rhythm.

jer 03-11-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 674967)
I was always the one making people dance rather than doing the dancing myself so I never had the chance to work out any moves.

This is my excuse to my gf whenever she wants to cut a rug... I do try and do a "seat dance" if the crowd is getting me into it, but in real life, I prefer slow dancing.

aydee 03-11-2010 04:45 PM

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Dont know about dancing, but drummers make great lovers, I've been told.

Pollyanna 03-12-2010 03:04 AM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
We're also good at massage. When I did a Swedish massage course back in the Paleozoic Era the instructor chose me out of the class to demonstrate how tapotements should be done. Tapotements are the drumming aspect of massage - cupping, chopping and pounding.

I've performed many drum solos on friends' backs. It's one time when drum solos are sure to be appreciated. Metal players may need to tone things down, though - unless their subject is exceptionally large and robust (not that there's anything wrong with that!).

keep it simple 03-12-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 675262)
We're also good at massage.

Oh yes!! I get that too. Not just a sense of rhythm, but dynamic control is so useful when doing a back, neck, calf solo. It's one side skill that's certainly a better paying gig than drumming on a kit will ever be! (ahem)

As for dancing, ahahahahahaaaaa. Sorry, I can't type much for laughing at mental history images of me attempting to dance as some pathetic attempt to pull chicks. Why oh why oh why did I do that when all I needed to to was lick my eyebrows.

jonescrusher 03-12-2010 01:02 PM

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No. Absolutely not.


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Thaard 03-12-2010 01:30 PM

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Well... Ive seen Jojo Mayer dance samba, and he seemed pretty good at it(in his dvd). For me, I always seat myself in the corner with a brewski and watch others make a fool of themselves.

larryace 03-12-2010 07:57 PM

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Not in my case. Even if I feel the groove, I can only maintain dancing OK for like 30 seconds. After that I start to self destruct, and end up dancing like Elaine Benis in that one Seinfeld episode.

Pollyanna 03-13-2010 12:07 AM

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I think it would be fair to say that the answer to the question: "Do drummers make good dancers?" is a resounding NO :) So far it seems only diosdude, Gerri Atrique and Guntersdad can dance and the rest of us are tanglefoots (tanglefeet?).

A sense of rhythm is one thing, grace is another thing entirely. Ive tossed up going to dance classes for years now but embarrassment at my dorkiness keeps me from doing it.

Does dancing have rudiments you can practice? lol

Thaard 03-13-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 675585)
Does dancing have rudiments you can practice? lol

Maybe we can all learn tap-dancing! Right-foot, Left-foot, Right-foot, Right-foot, Left-foot, Right-foot, Left-foot, Left foot.

Funky Crpe 03-22-2010 02:28 AM

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i heard some famous drummer say " don't trust a drummer who can't dance"....forget who though

Pollyanna 03-22-2010 04:36 AM

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Thaard, you may be on to something there. It looks like we need to do something fast to show we can be trusted!

toddy 03-22-2010 05:33 AM

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yes, and i love to dance. good thing the ladies love too aswell huh. :)

Pollyanna 03-22-2010 06:20 AM

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Not all of us do, Toddy!

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toddy 03-22-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 679160)
Not all of us do, Toddy!

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you're right polly, not all ladies have the confidence to dance in public, but i think the majority would like to! most ladies i've met have watched dirty dancing at least once.. :)

Fur drummer 03-24-2010 05:54 AM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
No, the only way we can keep a beat is to hit something with a stick which is not good for the person we are dancing with.

toddy 03-24-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fur drummer (Post 679992)
No, the only way we can keep a beat is to hit something with a stick which is not good for the person we are dancing with.

haha, sarcasm detector code red.
you guys need to go to dance gigs or carnivals or something.
if you want to learn 'how to move' then join a latin band and play the clave, and then watch how the pretty ladies dance in the street and copy them ;)

Pollyanna 03-24-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by toddy (Post 679167)
you're right polly, not all ladies have the confidence to dance in public, but i think the majority would like to! most ladies i've met have watched dirty dancing at least once.. :)

Twice here :) Always liked Patrick Swayze. I can't copy those Latin dancers because they shake their bazookas around and if I did that I'd either fall over or take someone's eye out ...

toddy 03-24-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 680064)
Twice here :) Always liked Patrick Swayze. I can't copy those Latin dancers because they shake their bazookas around and if I did that I'd either fall over or take someone's eye out ...

Haha! yeah patrick swayze is such a dude. i lol at my friends that have problems with women. they should just watch that film and pick up some tips ;-)

as for dancing, i can't think of anything easier! a drummer provides the rhythm, i can't understand not being able to dance to what you play. (i mean those who literally can't feel the pulse, not those that are shy/embarrassed/a combination of the two). :-)

Pollyanna 03-24-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by toddy (Post 680070)
Haha! yeah patrick swayze is such a dude. i lol at my friends that have problems with women. they should just watch that film and pick up some tips ;-)

as for dancing, i can't think of anything easier! a drummer provides the rhythm, i can't understand not being able to dance to what you play. (i mean those who literally can't feel the pulse, not those that are shy/embarrassed/a combination of the two). :-)

That's the thing, Toddy. There's no doubt that we all have rhythm, just that if we try to express it with our bodies (rather than with hands, sticks and foot pedals) we are ... inelegant.

toddy 03-24-2010 01:16 PM

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that's true, but you can only find elegance through practice and a whole lot of failure. i think elegance is worth it in the end though! :-)

zildjank09 03-26-2010 12:03 AM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
Errh, lets just say the only other drummer i know should stick to drumming at least he`s good at one thing. Lol..

Big_Philly 03-26-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by toddy (Post 680080)
that's true, but you can only find elegance through practice and a whole lot of failure. i think elegance is worth it in the end though! :-)

I'd like to learn how to dance... but not this stupid flailing your arms around and gyrating your pelvis that I see in dance clubs these days. I'd like to learn some proper dancing: salsa, waltz, cha-cha-cha etc.

Strangelove 03-27-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 680074)
That's the thing, Toddy. There's no doubt that we all have rhythm, just that if we try to express it with our bodies (rather than with hands, sticks and foot pedals) we are ... inelegant.

I disagree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgXpT064i-k

Pocket Groove11 03-27-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
Yes! I was literally just thinking this just recently. If you are an experienced drummer you most likely have a great sense of rhythm and feel. This translates to how you can move your body. when every I dance with girls where ever I may be, i always notice that I am right on time with the music. Also, I go in "half time" dancing with girls. And i have had a few comments saying i was a good dancer

GRUNTERSDAD 03-27-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thaard (Post 675601)
Maybe we can all learn tap-dancing! Right-foot, Left-foot, Right-foot, Right-foot, Left-foot, Right-foot, Left-foot, Left foot.

Tap dancing paradiddles. Would sound cool.

Malti 03-28-2010 03:57 PM

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Actually, dancing does have paradiddles, as in the Tap left foot, right foot shuffle/slide. Dance is broken into steps, combinations and patterns, (choreography) just like drumming. If you watch closely, especially with jazz, you'll see the same combinations repeated over and over. If you can learn to drum, you can learn to dance. Really!! Just have to break it down into manageable steps and practice.

Strangelove 03-29-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Malti (Post 681488)
If you can learn to drum, you can learn to dance. Really!! Just have to break it down into manageable steps and practice.

I agree. And I would be surprised if most drummers could not be good dancers, after all we are the epicenter of the rythm section, are we not? Good dancing requires alot of muscle strength, though, moreso than drumming. I figure that's why alot of drummers complain they have no rythm to dance or what not. The more tired you get, the more you lose the proper coordination and mechanics, just like on the drum set. Older folks like myself just have to stick to slower moves, lol.

toddy 03-31-2010 12:45 AM

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i really want to learn flamenco in the future. it looks uber crazy (spanish ladies) and i have a feeling it's very good for leg muscles.

mcbike 05-31-2010 04:59 AM

Re: Do drummers make good dancers?
 
I am a good dancer myself. My mom enrolled me into dance lessons when I was 5 and I kept up with it until I started playing drums when I was 12.

Dancing taught me alot of things that really helped me to learn drums like:
my left from my right
how to perform infront of a crowd
rhythm
basic pulses of different dance styles.
I would also say I learned how to swing from dancing too.

I think it comes out in my playing to this day. I most often get compliments from other musicians that when I am playing people get up and DANCE. I just have a really strong down beat on the 1 & 3 or even 4 on the floor. I also try not to complicate things with fills especially when people are clapping along or dancing to the beat.

I don't dance much these days, but whenever I do it's always funny to turn heads because most people don't expect it from me.


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