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Ian Williams 02-25-2010 09:30 PM

Dave Holland
 
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Dave Holland was one of the former drummers for Judas Priest, mainly from British Steel through Ram It Down, era.

In my opinion, his most remarkable drumming was on "Point of Entry" and "Screaming For Vengeance" albums.

virfirjans 02-26-2010 07:46 AM

Re: Dave Holland
 
I'm a Judas Priest fan, but this man has done a very big mistake:

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...ews2/judas.htm

Ian Williams 02-26-2010 12:38 PM

Re: Dave Holland
 
Yes, I agree he made a bad mistake and he has to payback. One of the reasons, I just wanted to keep it to the drumming aspect only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by virfirjans (Post 669994)
I'm a Judas Priest fan, but this man has done a very big mistake:

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...ews2/judas.htm


virfirjans 02-26-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Dave Holland
 
Yes you're right
In the drumming aspect, he was not a master, but he did the perfect pair with Ian Hill.

ben. 08-15-2011 02:49 AM

Re: Dave Holland
 
My favorite Priest albums are those Holland has played on, mostly British Steel and Screaming For Vengeance. I like the simplicity of his drumming and the feel he added to the songs.

I watched clips on YouTube where Scott Travis plays on some the British Steel songs and his adding of unnecessary double bass ruins it all... Steeler, for example, doesn't need any double bass drum, especially not in the rhythm section after the solo (which starts at 3:26 in the clip posted below).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImIz7...eature=related

Here, in the original version, the rhythm section starts at 2:50. This version is way better IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57VHPezT6os

Holland played a lot with his hi-hat closed which added some “bounce” or groove to the beat. Travis plays these parts with the hi-hat open that gives a (perhaps) heavier but slowed down feel.

Yopps 08-15-2011 10:22 PM

Re: Dave Holland
 
Ah good ol' Dave Holland. I remeber him when he played in the trio Trapeze with Glenn Hughes and Bernie Marsden (I think it was). This was several years before Judas Priest though. From what I gather Priest wanted to simplify it's sound and be less complex musically. They just needed guy who could keep time and do bare minimum fills and Dave Holland was picked up to do it. I was not a fan of 80s Priest but Holland did his job well. He couldn't pull off some of the older, more technical Judas Priest songs like the ones done with Simon Philips and Les Binks (most of the material of Sin After Sin and Stained Class) so they were simlpy dropped from the set list.

Sad about the fate that has befallen him in latter years though.

Ian Williams 08-17-2011 01:50 AM

Re: Dave Holland
 
Dave Holland was a clock playing for the songs in Judas Priest...
Listen to "The Rage, Rapid Fire, Steeler, Riding On The Wind, Freewheel Burning."

Dwmike 02-08-2013 03:38 AM

Re: Dave Holland
 
Dave Holland of judas priest is extremely under rated in my opinion. Les was an entirely different type of drummer and the songs he played on were arranged for Les, not Dave. When Dave entered his time keeping is essentially metronome like. He never tried to do to much which alot of us drummers tend to do. Big mistake! Listen to Rapid Fire. anything off of british steel for that matter. Perfect time keeping. pounding drums and guitars that required a simple but pounding yet still melodic approach. Each song fits the drums. You've got another thing comin'....Les or Dave? Dave...perfectly played, simple approach. He was a metronome....enough said!


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