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wy yung 01-08-2010 04:27 AM

What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Nick Bedford just said something that made me think about this subject in the practice thread. I may have missed the point of life. So I'd like to know what you guys and girls think the point or meaning of life is?

bobdadruma 01-08-2010 04:59 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Didn't Monty Python explain this subject in a movie back in the seventies?

boomstick 01-08-2010 05:36 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
There is no meaning. Life just is.

wy yung 01-08-2010 05:39 AM

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How about personal subjective meaning?

Skulmoski 01-08-2010 05:52 AM

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wy yung, I think the answer varies from person to person. The meaning of life also has a temporal element in that it changes for that person depending upon what stage of life he/she is living.

For me, I was crazy about drumming and performing 30 years ago. Then it was mountaineering. Then I was focused on finishing graduate school. Etc. All these things gave me meaning at some point in my life. Marriage and a daughter came along and they are now my focus. Going puddle jumping with my daughter gave great meaning to our lives last month.

Take care wy yung

Skulmoski

TheGroceryman 01-08-2010 05:53 AM

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It's whatever you want it to be. Whatever you wanna do, just do it. There's no hidden all-so-secret truth to life. Just...live, get the most out of it, that's what im tryna do.

nick.bedford 01-08-2010 06:00 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
As to that post, I wasn't directing it toward you, it was more of a general comment (I didn't notice who posted those hours).

The meaning of life for me is to make it big in the band I'm in (www.ludavico.com). Who knows if we will, who knows how far, but its a very enticing personal goal for me. I'd love to see the world through a band, seeing the sights and playing to new and foreign fans. Muse and Incubus are a huge inspiration on that front.

As far as drumming is concerned, I guess I'm a little like Dom Howard in my approach. I like to be solid and capable of playing and creating in the genres I like, but I don't require myself to be a virtuoso or a "drum legend". That's not my goal in drumming. My goal in drumming is to play music, and have heaps of fun in the process and share the music with people.

Pollyanna 01-08-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by boomstick (Post 650196)
There is no meaning. Life just is.

That's how I feel. Why should it have a meaning? I killed a small cockroach today. What was the meaning of its life? It just did cockroach-y things just as we do human-y things.

A fair while ago I decided there were two things to do in life to be happy - take your fun where you find it and make yourself useful. I still get the blues at times but I've mellowed. The universe doesn't care if we're happy or not. Actually, hardly anyone does because everyone has their hands full trying to keep their own life working. Life is a full-time job - 24/7, no breaks! We just have to keep chipping away ...

Garvin 01-08-2010 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Skulmoski (Post 650207)
wy yung, I think the answer varies from person to person. The meaning of life also has a temporal element in that it changes for that person depending upon what stage of life he/she is living.

For me, I was crazy about drumming and performing 30 years ago. Then it was mountaineering. Then I was focused on finishing graduate school. Etc. All these things gave me meaning at some point in my life. Marriage and a daughter came along and they are now my focus. Going puddle jumping with my daughter gave great meaning to our lives last month.

Take care wy yung

Skulmoski

This is a beautiful photo... I love it, and I'm saving it!

As far as the meaning of life... I'm pretty sure it has something to do with hitting on chicks in a drum forum.

John Galt 01-08-2010 07:09 AM

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clearly the answer is 42.

If one's own personal logic refuses to accept this universal rule, then life may mean anything one wishes it to be. This of course encompasses the answer nothing, in which case, or pollyanna's case, a massive cockroach is about to inflict the ultimate cosmic karma and wipe certain people out. (This may or may not include those with williams disease, and/or pyoderma gangeroserum!)

Good luck with such a question. Best not to think too hard about that.
As the Pirahana Brothers said...."My brain hurts!"

Have a good day.

Solstice1221 01-08-2010 08:01 AM

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To defeat entropy!!!

FBDrummer 01-08-2010 08:08 AM

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I agree with John clearly the answer is in fact 42...
Since this Galaxy began, vast civilizations have risen and fallen, risen and fallen, risen and fallen so often that it's quite tempting to think that life in the Galaxy must be (a) something akin to seasick - space-sick, time sick, history sick or some such thing, and (b) stupid.

larryace 01-08-2010 08:12 AM

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Truly, the meaning of life is the meaning you give it.

I think a major reason why we're here is simply to recreate and thrive.

When you die, all those vacations, college degrees, all those days working, the last movie you saw....those are just experiences. Your kids and family and friends are the only thing that has any genuine meaning, so therefore, from where I'm sitting, the meaning of life is to have children, and support the people who are most important to you. Might as well have as much sex as you can get too.



Oh and play drums to keep yourself normal.

Pollyanna 01-08-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 650245)
from where I'm sitting, the meaning of life is to have children, and support the people who are most important to you.

... Oh and play drums to keep yourself normal.

Larry, I have to disagree that the meaning of life is to procreate, otherwise my life has little meaning :) It's one thing to bring children into the world but those children need nurturing - waaay into their adulthood. So we nurture one another.

And if drumming has anything in common with normality I'll eat my hat :-P

John, do you moonlight as a yogi by any chance. You are one sage dood

larryace 01-08-2010 08:52 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
I think of all my ancestors, everyone who came before me, and made the sacrifices they

made, just so I could drink from the cup of life and play drums and be cool. I feel I owe it to them

to keep it going, so in the future one of my decendants will get to be cool too.

Polly, is it too late to donate eggs?

They wouldn't take my stuff, too old I was told.

(I'll show them!)

wy yung 01-08-2010 09:00 AM

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Wow, what wonderful posts. That little girl puddle jumping made my week!

Nick, you simply made me think and I appreciate it very much.

I just got back from having a walk around, shopping and doing some thinking. I think that as a person who has always been curious, the main reason I've put time into what I've done has been to find out what it is like to be good at it. I know what it's like to be a martial arts instructor and how it feels to spar and win tournaments. I know what it's like to have someone like George Lucas admire my modelling work. I know what it's like now to have some drum technique. I suppose a life spent satisfying curiosity isn't so bad. People have done far worse. Just look at Goebbels! Had he spent his time drumming, the world may have been a better place. :-)

Pollyanna 01-08-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by larryace (Post 650260)
Polly, is it too late to donate eggs?

Only if they're free range. I won't touch cage eggs :)

I reckon the world has more than enough people (FAR more than enough!) so I'm happy just to enjoy pleasant relations with the humans already around.

Yep Wy, there are many, many worse pastimes than drumming.

wy yung 01-08-2010 12:24 PM

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So the meaning of life is drumming?! Cool.

Pollyanna 01-08-2010 12:48 PM

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*slaps forehead*

Only to drummers :)

wy yung 01-08-2010 01:10 PM

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Hey for the first time I got something right. Don't diss me. ;-)

gusty 01-08-2010 01:38 PM

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Try and enjoy life as much as possible, do whatever work has to be done and you should be right. Though that's probably too simple for reality...

Strangelove 01-08-2010 09:43 PM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Life actually has a meaning? Please enlighten me.

zildjank09 01-08-2010 09:56 PM

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The meaning of life as far as i`m concerned is to smile, laugh, be happy and cherish the one`s you love.

sufc.loyal 01-08-2010 10:00 PM

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Its simple you dim whits.

The meaning of life is that,

Life has a meaning, and that meaning of life, is the life that you are meant to have,

and if the life you are meant to have, does in fact have a meaning, then lets hope it the life that you wanted.

If your life has no meaning, then you are proberly meant to be mean, and with a life meaning ment, and a mean meanting life, then life has only one outcome.

Simples.

zildjank09 01-08-2010 10:09 PM

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WOW!!! Looks like SUFC.LOYAL has had one to many! Lol.
Can anyone else work that one out!!! If that`s your idea of the meaning of life, you must live a very confusing one. Derrhh!!!!

mikeg 01-08-2010 10:28 PM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Every so often, I wonder the same, and it brings to mind an old Scottish proverb: "Be happy while you're living, for you're a long time dead.", then I go try to find an activity that makes me happy.

Skulmoski: That photo is priceless. It should be in a magazine if it isn't already. Made my day.

John Galt 01-08-2010 10:29 PM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
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Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 650252)
Larry, I have to disagree that the meaning of life is to procreate, otherwise my life has little meaning :) It's one thing to bring children into the world but those children need nurturing - waaay into their adulthood. So we nurture one another.

And if drumming has anything in common with normality I'll eat my hat :-P

John, do you moonlight as a yogi by any chance. You are one sage dood

Only as Yogi Bear Polly!
"Smarter than the average Booboo"

Life really is whatever it is. The choice we have ultimately is whether we want to continue doing whatever it is we do.
No matter how one feels about life, good, bad, indifferent, got it going on......I can guarantee all of you that when that knock comes to depart this mortal coil, you wont wanna go.

sufc.loyal 01-08-2010 10:58 PM

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you smug kits,

with all your smiles, and puppy dog eyes, and cherishing loved ones. lol ish

and there was me thinking life was rather shite for most people lol even less now.

I surpose i need to think of a new pherlosaphy now. (or learn how to spell).

zildjank09 01-08-2010 11:06 PM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Did you mean PHILOSOPHY of life.
Your not on your own with this one i can`t spell either, just cheated and looked it up.
Smile and be happy!! That`s my philosophy.

Ian Williams 01-08-2010 11:29 PM

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Life is a timeless mystery, I don't worry to understand it or solve it.....I live life to the full.

zambizzi 01-08-2010 11:56 PM

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The endless quest for Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. :)

wy yung 01-09-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zambizzi (Post 650518)
The Pursuit of Happiness. :)


Is that band still together???

jordanz 01-09-2010 12:22 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
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Originally Posted by wy yung (Post 650175)
Nick Bedford just said something that made me think about this subject in the practice thread. I may have missed the point of life. So I'd like to know what you guys and girls think the point or meaning of life is?

This is a nonsensical question. The concept "Meaning" only applies to rational beings - i.e. humans. So, without the subject of the sentence, the sentence doesn't make sense. The correct question is "What is the Meaning of Live to <Subject>" where subject is you, your children, etc. When properly formed, the question is much easier to answer.

BassDriver 01-09-2010 02:45 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
The meaning of life is what ever puts meaning in your life.

For me it is happiness, it's why we do "human-y" things, all in the quest of happiness.

I see it this way, you say what you believe is the meaning of life because it makes you happy, which is the ultimate meaning of life, everything before it is just a means to an end.

Thaard 01-09-2010 03:22 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Be self-sufficient, have enough good friends and be as good as a drummer and musician that I can be. That is all.

boomstick 01-09-2010 03:25 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
Skulmoski, that photo is awesome on so many levels.

GRUNTERSDAD 01-09-2010 04:03 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
For we humans and all other animals, the meaning of life is to reproduce the species. How that evolves is left up to a higher being or science depending on your beliefs.

ANIMALBEATS 01-09-2010 04:40 AM

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reprocreate.................

Geri Attrique 01-09-2010 06:27 AM

Re: What is the point, or meaning of life?
 
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Originally Posted by wy yung (Post 650522)
Is that band still together???

HA HA! That is hilarious that someone from Australia remembers this Canadian band...Moe Berg used to drink at one of my old watering holes....

BassDriver 01-10-2010 03:02 AM

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For we humans and all other animals, the meaning of life is to reproduce the species. How that evolves is left up to a higher being or science depending on your beliefs.
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Be self-sufficient, have enough good friends and be as good as a drummer and musician that I can be. That is all.
Those things that you say are the "meanings" in your life are really just means to an end, that if you fulfil your means you will achieve happiness.

That's what life is about for me.

...but what I said can only apply to human life...

I think it is because we as humans can form abstract concepts, dream and have emotions.

I/we simply don't know if that cockroach that Polly stomped on had thought about it's meaning in it's own life, but we do know that it is a sentient being with a brain and sensory apparatus that enables it observe and act with/against/from it's surroundings...

...so what drives it through the day to do cockroach-y things?

That might be the general/universal meaning of life that applies to all of life, not just humans, it just happens that humans can form abstract concepts and occasionally delve into their right-side brain.

It ("general/universal meaning of life") is not an answer even we as humans can answer, and personally I would rather not turn to the idea of some "higher being" to explain that, as even that is out of our grasp/far fetched...

...but then again, perhaps it is happiness that drives us to do the things we do (even including non-humans) and non-human organisms interpret that differently, perhaps seing their own species grow through breeding is what makes them "happy" (in their own way of course)...but really, I think I might still be happy if I didn't give a damn anyway...


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