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Speedy 06-30-2005 12:50 AM

Jason Bittner
 
I got the Shawdows Fall cd and also read that bittner was #1 in the modern drummer polls for metal and recorded performence. His drumming to me was outstanding. His fills and double bass chops left me with my jaw dropped to the floor. He also has a drum lesson in the dvd that comes with the cd "the war within". it was pretty cool how he went thru the whole song (the light that blinds) showing his every move. They even recorded on video him playing the drums on that song when he was recording it for the cd. Great Metal Drummer! Some of the best drumming i have heard in a while in my opinon.

krazykenny5150 07-03-2005 07:00 AM

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He is among hte best in metal drumming. He did do a lot of studying in the music field. awsome drummer. Any1 have modern drummer festival video yet?

Doom 07-03-2005 06:33 PM

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I really dont know why Bittner gets so much fuss. I just dont see why people think he is better than Cavalera, Lombardo, Paul etc. Those three in particular have done so much more than him and Cavalera in particular just seems to get ignored.

Bernhard 07-04-2005 12:44 AM

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It's not about who's faster madness....

It's about at the right moment in the right band at the right place

meshuggah1324 07-04-2005 12:52 AM

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You're right, but I don't hear anything that Shadows Fall plays that I haven't heard before. Rather boring if you ask me. He's very solid and schooled I hear, so way to go Bittner!

Speedy 07-04-2005 02:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doom
I just dont see why people think he is better than Cavalera, Lombardo, Paul etc. .

I never said he was better than them, or even mentioned them. But I like him more than the others. I like his creativity more than the others too.

Colin 07-04-2005 07:09 AM

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Dave Lombardo is just plain badass.

I have yet to hear Bittner's drumming.

Doom 07-04-2005 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy
I never said he was better than them, or even mentioned them. But I like him more than the others. I like his creativity more than the others too.

Actually I shouldnt have said that people think he is better than them, its just that he is getting alot of praise lately and I think there are other metal drummers who are more deserving of it.

Bernhard 07-04-2005 08:12 PM

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Wegadrummer 07-04-2005 09:43 PM

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woooah! *gaasping* the kit.. so, so .. yeah.. amazing..

Brainstemm 07-06-2005 04:38 AM

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Hey just listen to the track "Those who cannot speak" that is sick in the chorus. not sure if its just your average 16th's or what, he makes it sound of time but it crushes so solid its just so badass. anyway bittner is my inspiration to get nasty on the kit so.....cheers to a well schooled player keeping metal drummers in the know.

DrumNut 09-10-2005 05:41 AM

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He's a good drummer.

Looking_For_A_Band 01-04-2006 05:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainstemm
Hey just listen to the track "Those who cannot speak" that is sick in the chorus. not sure if its just your average 16th's or what, he makes it sound of time but it crushes so solid its just so badass. anyway bittner is my inspiration to get nasty on the kit so.....cheers to a well schooled player keeping metal drummers in the know.

I completely agree with you on that. bittner is my fav drummer, very thick solid beats, if you know what im talking about.

pete_on_drums 01-04-2006 04:58 PM

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Jasons one of the best metal drummers ive seen. Him and chris adler are my Favourite drummers at the moment

fam 01-17-2006 09:34 PM

Jason Bittner
 
i'm new to this site and have enjoyed what i've seen so far, great site. but i can't believe i haven't seen one mention of jason bittner yet. I think the drumming on The War Within is incredible! awsome combination of power speed and technique, everything just makes sence!

zildjian_dude101 01-18-2006 06:02 PM

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That's what this thread is about fam. I think Bittner is an amazing drummer. He's not the fastest, but the way he puts everything together is awsome. I don't know, I just think his drumming flows very well.

MSUMetal 03-02-2006 01:12 AM

Jason Bittner
 
I've seen a few of you guys mention him, and I did a search and didn't find a post actually about him. I personally love him, and love the sound of his drums. He's amazing, especially in his intro to "The Light That Blinds," not necessarily the fastest but just about the sweetest sounding intro I've ever heard.

I believe he won the up and coming metal drummer of the year if I'm not mistaken, I'm sure someone will prove this correct or incorrect soon.

Anyway, your thoughts?

T-1000 03-02-2006 01:19 AM

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I'm not too familier with him. But from what I've heard of Shadows fall, I'd have to say I like Adler better. The guy is just a bit more groovy. Bitt's got chops and speed to burn, though, and he's a dilligent drummer, so you can be sure he will (and, indeed already has) go/gone far.

MSUMetal 03-02-2006 01:25 AM

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Did you listen to their new album? Cause if I remember correctly he's only on that album. Just wanted to make sure.

zildjian_dude101 03-02-2006 07:24 PM

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He's pretty damn good. I like his style. He looks promising. I don't like Shadows Fall all that much, but I like his work in the band.

Nick Garland 03-02-2006 07:48 PM

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After seeing both bands live, I by far prefer Adler. His playing in my opinion is far more creative. In Rhythm magazine there is an interview with both drummers, havent got round to reading it yet though. If you listen to shadows falls drumming it is very good dont get me wrong but it sounds less complex than alot of adlers drumming. I am also abit of a fan of Lamb of God, moment tickets were on sale for Astoria I booked mine. So I might have abit of a biased view.

Go listen to Lamb of God and Shadows Fall and I think you will see what I mean about the durmming, Adler if more complex in my opinion.

TopCat 03-02-2006 10:29 PM

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It's a good interview. Im all for adler though, for reasons allready stated, and i prefer LoG.

METAL_DRUMMER 03-08-2006 04:21 AM

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Adler has some complex songs but i think bittner does give him some competition. adler mostly does triplets in his feet and it sounds awesome. But i think bittner has more endurance when playing fast double bass. thats what i admire about Bittner

Chris 03-24-2006 07:47 PM

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Jason Bittner is my favorite drummer. His parts on "The War Within" are just kick ass. In my opinion, Bittner is at the top of metal drumming, along with Bostaph, Cavalera, Hoglan, and Lombardo. Really kool guy too.

jamsjr44 03-24-2006 09:23 PM

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I'm telling you check out MARTIN LOPEZ from OPETH and the song "DELIVERANCE" and that whole album, he is every bit as good. His double bass is sick.

tambian89 03-24-2006 10:16 PM

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Bittner is certainly not the fastest, but I am a big fan of his drumming. He has excellent phrasing, he is very clean, solid, and is not sketchy at all. He is well-educated, and his work with Shadows Fall reflects it well. I personally think he is one of the best drummers of newer bands; I also think Jaska Raatinkainer is very good too.

- Marc




He is definately better than "The Reverand"!!!!!

Jookbox 03-25-2006 12:25 AM

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he's not bad. i just don't think he should have busted out the different styles druing his md solo when it was painfully obvious he's not a latin or jazz master.

hookedup 03-25-2006 10:41 AM

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After my band opened for Shadows Fall, I ran into Bittner backstage after he did his warmups. Great drummer for what he does but I don't hear a lot of the variety I look for in a metal drummer. I paid more attention to the people getting hit in the face with the leadsinger's dreads than I did his drumming, but I suppose that might be because I'd seen them before that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsjr44
I'm telling you check out MARTIN LOPEZ from OPETH and the song "DELIVERANCE" and that whole album, he is every bit as good. His double bass is sick.

I just caught these guys in Chicago, again, but still no Martin behind the drums. His drum-work is great for the music. He's a tasteful drummer when it comes to using his speed. That's very commendable these days. I did get to see his fill-in (drummer from Bloodbath) play a solo, which Martin doesn't do very often.

I recommend Opeth's DVD "Lamentations" to anyone that wants to check out their live show. The producion is top notch and it's a long double-set show.

Bernhard 03-25-2006 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jookbox
he's not bad. i just don't think he should have busted out the different styles druing his md solo when it was painfully obvious he's not a latin or jazz master.

This is just a bit unfair in my opinion. I stood right beside hime at PASIC and I was really impressed by his powerful playing. Double as loud as most of the other drummers. This you don't get in the DVD!!!! And very precise. I compared live and know now, why he won the MD awards and fully agree.

Great and nice guy also with huge wide professional background for many years ....also as a teacher. Comments on jazz or latin are in this case really inappropriate.

Bernhard

Bernhard 03-25-2006 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsjr44
I'm telling you check out MARTIN LOPEZ from OPETH and the song "DELIVERANCE" and that whole album, he is every bit as good. His double bass is sick.

??????

What has this to do with Jason? Is he involved with Opeth in some way or what??? or should this become a "Who is even bettter than Jason" thread???!!!

Hmmm, don't get it - this is the Jason Bittner thread

Bernhard

jamsjr44 03-25-2006 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernhard
??????

What has this to do with Jason? Is he involved with Opeth in some way or what??? or should this become a "Who is even bettter than Jason" thread???!!!

Hmmm, don't get it - this is the Jason Bittner thread

Bernhard

No people we mentioning other drummers in this thread who they thought their feet were just as fast as Bitners, so I mentioned Martin Lopez as another one. I'm not bashing Bittner, but I believe his feet gets him his most acclaim I don't think his overall drumming is that great. Yes he is very good but I would not classify him as an amazing drummer in my opinion, he doesn't make my jaw drop like Weckl and many others.

drummer4satan 03-27-2006 06:54 PM

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Just by watching Jason Bittner play one could instantly get better. he is like the new innovator of double bass.

figure_02 03-29-2006 08:34 PM

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I dont agree, I have seen far more impressive double bass work, I agree that he can do it pretty fast, but it doesnt sound as tight and inniovative as Vinnie Paul's for intsace, tho I love the kit he use! Meinl all the way xD

Battered Sausage 03-31-2006 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsjr44
I'm telling you check out MARTIN LOPEZ from OPETH and the song "DELIVERANCE" and that whole album, he is every bit as good. His double bass is sick.

Amen brother.. Lopez is very much over looked in the drumming world.

DrumNut 04-02-2006 12:21 AM

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I think Jason is very good heavy rock drummer and has good, strong feet.

Did he ever study with anyone?

Symbolic 04-02-2006 12:30 AM

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He went to Berklee to study drums there.

tambian89 04-02-2006 12:38 AM

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Bittner is very well-educated; never forget that. As Shadows Fall has released only 5 albums, we have yet to know the full extent of his drumming. Look at Dave Lombardo of Slayer; if one were to compare the drumming on Show No Mercy to that of Seasons in the Abyss, the difference is incredible.

- Marc

cdawg_2010 04-03-2006 01:53 AM

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i like his unique set up! i love his double bass playing and i think hes one of the better metal drummers now.

Symbolic 04-03-2006 04:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tambian89
Bittner is very well-educated; never forget that. As Shadows Fall has released only 5 albums, we have yet to know the full extent of his drumming. Look at Dave Lombardo of Slayer; if one were to compare the drumming on Show No Mercy to that of Seasons in the Abyss, the difference is incredible.

- Marc


And he, I believe has only played with them on 2 releases.

Alot of people are comparing him to Chris Alder, but I think if you look at both Bittner and Alder, Bittner is a better drummer IMHO. Chris Alder's playing is very one deminsional, he has the same type of playing on most of LoG's songs. It is different from other bands but he over uses the same kick pattern all the time. Same thing with fills. If you look at Bittner's playing though you can see that there is alot more knowledge and creativity to his playing. Go watch the Alder and Bittner videos on this site and you can see the difference in their playing abilities.

Joe79 04-18-2006 12:27 PM

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I kinda signed up for this forum and forgot about it for like 6 months... ironically I've been posting on JB's forum. Jay is one of my most personally inspiring drummers. A lot of you guys are talking about how educated he is. A lot of people don't know this, but he only went to Berklee for a year (it's like $40k a year with room and board...). And yes, a yr at Berklee is still a YEAR at Berklee, but I'm saying that's just a small part of his getting to the level he's at.
You can go to his website and ask him - he will never claim to be the fastest drummer out there. He'll tell you he's a metal/thrash drummer. One of his biggest influnces is Benante from Anthrax. Jay actually filled in for him for 2 shows when CB recently had his baby - that's how much he's played along with Anthrax growin up. You can hear that in a lot of his beats as well.
The biggest thing I love about his drumming is that he writes drum parts that fit the song as best as he can - and that's the most important thing that we as drummers must do. There are some things about his parts that you can't tell as well from a quick listen as you can by really studying the song. If you haven't seen his 'drum lesson' on the dvd that came with The War Within, I'd recommend it. It gives you a greater appreciation for some of his parts. My two favorite songs of his are "The Light That Blinds" and "Ghost of Past Failures." In the latter you will hear a lot of the MD solo parts at work, like the tom pattern where he keeps the beat on the x-hat, the tom pattern,8ths on kicks, snare on 2+4. They're not impossible for others to play, but that's not the point. He's a making great music.

Also, for those of you who are real big into speed - to quote Jay (from a thread where people signed in as guests were coming on and anonymously comparing JB and Joey), "on the new SHAD record there's a Double kick song at 210BPM but I bet that's still not fast enough!!!" Obviously, the man is progressing, just like the rest of us.
(for comparison reasons, the light that blinds was recorded at 180bpm)

p.s. I'm a big fan of Alder as well, I just picked up Ashes of the Wake last week.


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