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Ian Williams 01-15-2009 01:59 AM

Buddy Rich - Away We Go, Drum Solo.
 
An amazing and extraordinary determination to play, way back in 1967. Buddy Rich is a thunder of hands & feet with strong feeling. The saxophones were great too.

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrich1967.html

Thanks a lot, Bernhard, Bobby! I really enjoy this video.

All The Best,

bobdadruma 01-15-2009 03:29 AM

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I went to your link and I'm not getting sound on the vid.

Never mind I went back and the sound is working now.

I can watch Buddy all day!
I first saw him as a child and I was hooked on drums ever since

Michael G 01-15-2009 04:19 AM

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This is undoubtedly a Chick Webb tribute tune. "Clap Hands! Here comes Charley" I believe it's called. Buddy sure captured the explosiveness in old Chick here.

Dr. Neaux 01-15-2009 07:03 PM

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Holy smokes, he sounds like a friggin machine gun! Man he was blazin back then. And those triplet fills..........he never misses a beat, geesh! I've always been blown away at his dexterity and the control he had. Heck, it's almost not fair at how good he was.

Ian Williams 01-16-2009 01:54 AM

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Astonished myself, when I saw Buddy hitting the crash cymbals from underneath...I mean, He is or was original and unique!!! The Emperor of the Drums...

The popes love child 01-17-2009 03:33 PM

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Wow, I legitimately feel sorry for that drumset. He just beat the hell out of that thing. I don't think I've ever seen a drum solo even close to that intense before, even from Buddy. That was fantastic!

b4z 01-19-2009 02:13 PM

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Does anybody have a video of the Monterey Pop festival(i think) where there were a bunch of famous drummers playing and Buddy Rich went out on another drummer's kit and blew them all away? I think it was in the '67-69 time period.

mattsmith 01-20-2009 02:53 AM

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One thing I liked about that solo was the bass drum work. I've never thought Rich got enough credit for all that, because he didn't see bass drum as the interactive hand to foot thing that people just assume today. Among Rich's many talents was tap dancing, a skill he picked up in his vaudeville days, and used in his drumming throughout his life. No less a tap dancer than Sammy Davis Jr. himself once called Rich as good a tap dancer as was in the world at that time.
You hear all that melodicism in his bass drum work, and it serves as the foundation for Rich to superimpose upon it all that uber technical hand stuff. I've always felt it was one of the most interesting traits about his playing, and perhaps the most musical part. It also proves to me how people who see his footwork as something infereior to what happens today are pretty much clueless.

So many get on this kick about how there's nothing but technique in Rich's solos, and in my way of thinking they just don't get it. When you listen to a Buddy Rich solo from the feet on up and not the other way around, you begin to hear his playing in an entirely different light. Sure there will be some pretty smart drummers who will claim none of this is going on, but I've always suspected that they really do hear what I'm saying, and intentionally go the other way because they are really upset about the popular appeal of this kind of drumming. A musical form of technique based drumming that appeals directly to the feelings of the general public isn't always going to be embraced by musicians selling other brands. Just my 2c.

If you really want to hear the tap dancing bass drum approach, listen to that famous swing era audio of Rich playing just 2 bass drums. They sound very similar to the kinds of patterns somebody like Bojangles would dance in those old movies, and they're very, very musical.

We talk a lot about the immense power of Rich's hands, and sure there's no doubt about that. But I've always felt that those sneaky feet of his were what made all that even more effective.

Ian Williams 01-20-2009 03:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mattsmith (Post 530693)

We talk a lot about the immense power of Rich's hands, and sure there's no doubt about that. But I've always felt that those sneaky feet of his were what made all that even more effective.

My simple input: Buddy Rich is/was a thunder of hands & feet with strong feeling. He had an remarkable foot accent.

By the way, good comments from your part.

Cheers,

jamndrummer 02-25-2009 03:57 AM

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I dont know how much sense this will make to everyone but Ill try to explain what I hear in Buddy's playing.....take a horizontal line and think of the melodies and harmonies on the positive (above) and negative (below) the line throughout the line. All the while Buddy is playing over, under on that line without stopping....his flow was so different than drummers in his era. It was like he was playing melodies, harmonies and rthymns all at one time.

aydee 02-25-2009 04:20 AM

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Wow, where has this video been hiding? Great find, iwilliams!
This is the first time I've seen Buddy incorporate the bass drum like that!

check out the heel toe on the hi hat too. Matt, his hands look like yours towards the end there, : )

Jeff Gordon #24 03-04-2010 12:13 AM

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Dang...the link to this video comes up with an error. "Website cannot be found." Anyone know how I can get it?

Thanks.

GRUNTERSDAD 03-04-2010 01:21 AM

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Ditto. Bad Link.......

bobdadruma 03-04-2010 02:15 AM

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Wow! What happened to the link?

Jeff Gordon #24 03-04-2010 06:26 AM

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Thanks anyway guys. Appreciate that!

Bernhard 03-04-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gordon #24 (Post 672086)
Dang...the link to this video comes up with an error. "Website cannot be found." Anyone know how I can get it?

Thanks.

The link now is here:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/b...7awaywego.html

Bernhard

Jeff Gordon #24 03-04-2010 09:12 AM

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Oh Wow! Thanks Mr. Bernhard. Just another amazing classic video of, imo, the greatest drummer to ever live, Buddy Rich. Just incredible!

Thank You again, sir.

GRUNTERSDAD 03-05-2010 12:03 AM

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Just to be able to play singles like that in the traditional grip would suit me just fine. where is Matt Smith for a few lessons??

bobdadruma 03-05-2010 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 672547)
Just to be able to play singles like that in the traditional grip would suit me just fine. where is Matt Smith for a few lessons??

Matt is on the coast!

con struct 03-05-2010 03:31 AM

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Holy s**t! Oh baby! What can you say after watching that?

It had to have been very weird, being Buddy Rich and knowing that you were the greatest. I can definitely see how that could do a number on your head, you know?

And I absolutely love the sound of the ride cymbal he's playing in that clip. Anyone have any idea what it is, other than the fact that it's a Zildjian?

Ian Williams 03-05-2010 12:34 PM

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I think he was crawling some pubs on East Europe, Rumania by the way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 672608)
Matt is on the coast!


bobdadruma 03-05-2010 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Williams (Post 672742)
I think he was crawling some pubs on East Europe, Rumania by the way.

Yea, Thats it, Matt's slumming in Europe! Ha, Ha!

Ian Williams 03-05-2010 01:02 PM

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Good on ya, mate. You´ve made laugh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdadruma (Post 672743)
Yea, Thats it, Matt's slumming in Europe! Ha, Ha!


slingerland755 03-06-2010 07:44 AM

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Every time I watch buddy, I just sit back and laugh. He was truly one of the greatest to ever play the drums.

larryace 03-06-2010 04:27 PM

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I find it unfathomable how the band comes in after the drumsolo right in time...Where's the 1? I think the audience should be required to wear seatbelts the way he drives that band...

Pollyanna 03-07-2010 12:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by larryace (Post 673193)
I find it unfathomable how the band comes in after the drumsolo right in time...Where's the 1? I think the audience should be required to wear seatbelts the way he drives that band...

Yeah, that blew me away again. Surely there wasn't a count through all of that maniacal intensity?? If the count started somewhere, can anyone work out what the cue was?.These guys were on another planet.

From what I've read about Buddy's personality, he perfectly expressed his character with that solo - a bit like a Jackson Pollock furiously hurling blobs of red paint onto a giant canvas. Very powerful.

Thaard 03-07-2010 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 673336)
Yeah, that blew me away again. Surely there wasn't a count through all of that maniacal intensity?? If the count started somewhere, can anyone work out what the cue was?.These guys were on another planet.

From what I've read about Buddy's personality, he perfectly expressed his character with that solo - a bit like a Jackson Pollock furiously hurling blobs of red paint onto a giant canvas. Very powerful.

The count started at 3:30'ish

MattJ 03-29-2010 07:47 PM

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Wow, what a great find! Buddy was incredible.

GetAgrippa 03-31-2010 01:26 AM

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Man he and the whole band were smokin'. To think how many people are so impressed with present day metal-blast beat speed drumming. This is speed with finese and layers of rhythms with each hand-amazing. This is what inspired me to start playing the drums back in the 60s when I was just a tot! Rock roll was rolling in and gaining the most attention, but then Buddy would come on Johnny Carson or some other venue and my jaw would drop. Dynamic playing.

Hercules 03-31-2010 05:58 AM

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Awesome - imagine if he had all the high quality gear (pedals etc) that we have nowadays - I often wonder what he would have sounded like as one of our contemporaries rather than as a pioneer.....

Jeff Gordon #24 03-31-2010 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 682512)
Awesome - imagine if he had all the high quality gear (pedals etc) that we have nowadays - I often wonder what he would have sounded like as one of our contemporaries rather than as a pioneer.....

Well Herc...he'd be blowin' us away even more than he did back then.

Oh wait...uhh...is that EVEN possible?


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