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metal overlord 11-19-2008 10:04 PM

Defining moments in music
 
What do you think are the most difining moments in music? Could be from any genre, or anything like that.


Mine would be:

Los Angeles, 1981. A man called James H. read the newspaper.

^^
Meaning a young James Hetfield was reading the newspaper and say "Drummer willing to do anything to be in a band".
And that drummer, was Mr. Lars Ulrich.



Also

When Geezer Butler saw the hooded ghostley figure at the end of his bed on that faithful Sunday evening.

^^
Thats how they got the name "Black Sabbath"

TheGroceryman 11-19-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When gregorian chant was invented in the Middle Ages. Basically set the precedent of all music to follow. Or how about when religion was invented, cause thats what spurred the beginning of music.

Muckster 11-19-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
The invention of the electric guitar.

lochday 11-20-2008 12:13 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.

jay norem 11-20-2008 01:34 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.

Nodiggie 11-20-2008 01:57 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Hmmm....

How about 1300 ish. The "Tabor" was invented with a single snare strand. Sick back beats soon followed...lol

divingdrummerdean 11-20-2008 02:07 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lochday (Post 503637)
The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.

...which was...the drum. ; )

trkdrmr 11-20-2008 02:27 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When Gene Krupa helped create a 20" floor tom and helped bring drumming into the forefront.

GRUNTERSDAD 11-20-2008 02:36 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.

Nodiggie 11-20-2008 02:37 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 503681)
The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.

Great music but I have a difficult time understanding their lyrics.

Oh....who am I kidding I went deaf years ago.....lol

LeeLovesSabian 11-20-2008 03:01 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.

Class A Drummer 11-20-2008 03:19 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When John Bonham did the bass drum triplets in good times bad times.

When Neil Peart did that Last 2 bar Fill in YYZ during the drum/bass trade off solos.

Bonz0 11-20-2008 03:23 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When DW made the Double Bass Pedals =)...Hi everybody im new here

doorstilend 11-20-2008 03:50 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeLovesSabian (Post 503694)
Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.


Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take

trkdrmr 11-20-2008 04:02 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doorstilend (Post 503709)
Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take

Moon was an alcoholic. Likely, he blacked out. When he died, he was taking medication that was supposed to help with his alcoholism.

aydee 11-20-2008 04:04 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Muckster (Post 503623)
The invention of the electric guitar.


Very insightful, sir.

jay norem 11-20-2008 04:36 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
I'd say when Charlie Parker figured out how to reharmonize "Cherokee." Pretty defining, that.

805Drummer 11-20-2008 04:51 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When the word "music" was added to the dictionary.

Chazz 11-20-2008 05:17 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
F. M. Radio
The British Invasion
Midnight Special
Don Kirshners Rock Concerts
California Jam - when Ritchie Blackmore smashed the Camera with his Strat!
Woodstock
Beatles at Shea Stadium
and there's more....

stasz 11-20-2008 05:18 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When a young Kenny G first picked up the saxaphone... the rest, as they say, is history.

Pocketman 11-20-2008 05:48 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Beethoven wirting the Ninth Symphony while deaf

Slaves are allowed to play music in Congo Square, New Orleans

The emergence of Louis Armstrong, America's most important singular musician

The Benny Goodman Orchestra (with Krupa) plays the Palomar Ballroom

Charlie Parker and Dizzy create bebop

Elvis goes on Ed Sullivan

The Beatles on Ed Sullivan

MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)

The ability to share music via downloading

trkdrmr 11-20-2008 05:55 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocketman (Post 503747)
MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)

Yeah, MTV nosedived around 1989 when they started veering away from a music video only format. Maybe it was a little before that, but I used to like it when it actually showed rock and top 40 videos. MTV's original concept did redefine the music scene, but alas, fell to corporate mentality and slid into the abyss of reality shows and rappers.

Deathmetalconga 11-20-2008 06:39 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jay norem (Post 503660)
Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.

Very true. One person, one simple discovery that led to Western melodic organization. He found that if you cut the vibrating length of string in half, the sound waves doubled in frequency, the basis for the octave. Not a huge mystery and someone was bound to have discovered it eventually (maybe Eastern musicians did and thought little of it) but that was clearly a defining moment.

Deathmetalconga 11-20-2008 06:44 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
African slaves adapting their music in the New World

The Spanish and Portuguese generally let their slaves make and play indigenous instruments, unlike the more uptight English and American slave traders and owners. Jazz probably never have evolved if American slaves would have been allowed to keep their native instruments - the influence of the original African music would have been too strong to permit something as radically different as jazz to evolve, so I think.

doorstilend 11-20-2008 07:16 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
when humans created a thing called "blues"

Deltadrummer 11-20-2008 07:51 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.

When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?

When Shakespeare wrote A Midsummer Night's Dream. (and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.)

When a hedge trimming accident produced the first male castrato.

When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.

aydee 11-20-2008 08:10 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doorstilend (Post 503783)
when humans created a thing called "blues"

The use of the flattened 5th..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltadrummer (Post 503791)
When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.

Thank you for not saying cavemen "picked up the rocks & banged the chicks", Kenny, that would have been rude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltadrummer (Post 503791)
When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?

I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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Mr. Pasquini 11-20-2008 09:22 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
1993 when I first picked up a violin.

lochday 11-20-2008 10:25 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltadrummer (Post 503791)
.... When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.

Bach and the Golden Number ...

trkdrmr 11-20-2008 10:25 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Let me see if I can add a few.

1. Sing sing sing- Gene Krupa
2. West side story suite- Buddy Rich
3. When the leavee breaks/Moby Dick- John Bonham
4. Purdie shuffle- Bernard Purdie
5. 50 ways to leave your lover- Steve Gadd
6. Don't stop Believeing drum track- Steve Smith
7. Brother to brother-Mark Craney
8. Moving Pictures- Neil Peart
9. Hot for teacher- Alex Van Halen
10.The police- Stewart Copeland

Dystisis 11-20-2008 10:35 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jay norem (Post 503660)
Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.

Agreed, I'd say this is probably the biggest one if we consider the last few thousand years... For european/western culture at least.

Before that, the invention of drums, the beginning of organization/categorization.

Ian Williams 11-20-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

Cheers,

Deltadrummer 11-20-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aydee (Post 503794)

I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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The Vedic tribes were dabbling in this type of geometric cosmogony hundreds of years before that. My Indian philosophy teacher in college argued that the Greeks got their diatonic scale from the Indians, and that the imperfection of musical mathematics resulted in the necessity for the creation of the gods. If music, or anything were perfect, there would be no need for a god.

There was a lot written back in the 70's about the Vedic tribes, and some authors even argued that they made their way even to Ireland. So in that sense, the roots of western culture are Indian, not Greek. That's why our languages have Sanskrit roots.

Ironcobra 11-20-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

GRUNTERSDAD 11-20-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Right On I.C.....................

TheGroceryman 11-20-2008 10:27 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deltadrummer (Post 503791)
When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

could you explain? I'm really curious how harmony is math.

Ian Williams 11-21-2008 01:11 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironcobra (Post 503941)
When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

Good on you, mate.
I miss those 4-5 member bands that really made music, long time ago...Now is just show business and commercial propaganda.

doorstilend 11-21-2008 06:14 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iwilliams (Post 503927)
-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

Cheers,



right on mate that Vox Continental he played sounded amazing

jay norem 11-21-2008 06:50 AM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doorstilend (Post 504231)
right on mate that Vox Continental he played sounded amazing

Actually it was a Fender "Key-Bass."

Deathmetalconga 11-21-2008 05:16 PM

Re: Defining moments in music
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironcobra (Post 503941)
When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

People developed instrumental music in conjunction with singing, dancing, worship, celebration, festivals, parades, feasts competitions etc. For music to exist separately from those things is unheard of in some socieities. In some countries, like India, popular music doesn't really exist separately from movies (maybe that's changed some).

This whole Western norm of "you're the audience so you sit there and stare and us while we play music" is not too common, I think. Good thing or not, people often see music as part of something larger, including a video, dance, song, etc.


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