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crdirtRider856 08-02-2008 08:33 AM

Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
So when I read on his DW page that even if you have heard of Primus, you probably dont know who he is...I figured I d check here and what do ya know! Personally he s been one of my favorites for as long as I can remember. Anyone who has seen him live with Primus knows- ........well... I dont know what anyone knows. But I think he s one of the best and extremely creative. Killer sound too. I ve always loved his accents and little effects he throws around. He helped create the Zildjian Zil-bel and you gotta at least give him some respect, right? Ever try playing his stuff? It aint that easy! Just figured I d throw him out there...

crdirtRider856 08-05-2008 07:31 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Gee cr dirtrider, Ive heard of Primus but never bothered to find out about their drummer. So what albums best represent his style and contribution to the drumming community? And what gear does he use? Is he any good and worth checking out?

Citizen Insane 08-05-2008 08:01 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Tim is great! I like the way he plays double bass, (tasteful...mainly used for fills and accents) rather than the way hordes of metal drummers play it. (constant 16th notes.)

crdirtRider856 08-05-2008 09:04 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Citizen Insane (Post 466588)
Tim is great! I like the way he plays double bass, (tasteful...mainly used for fills and accents) rather than the way hordes of metal drummers play it. (constant 16th notes.)

Very true. This is my favorite style of double bass. Not too many can pull it off like Herb. The full on "digadigadigadiga" has never really inspired me. Impressed me but never really made me want to sit down and try to do it like the "galloping" or "short spurts" style has. Gavin Harrison also comes to mind when I think of this type of d.b. work. Oh yeah, I was prepared to carry on this conversation with myself for as long as needed. LOL! If you ve ever seen em live, he and the band can pull off Rush pretty flawlessly. I saw them cover "La Villa Strangiato" here in Philly once, and if I didnt know any better, I would ve been fooled.

Drumsword 08-05-2008 12:33 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
I like Tim, I've been a big fan for a decade anyway. Especially his playing on "Tommy the Cat" and "Wynona's Big Brown Beaver". He's a very creative, and tasteful player yet technical enough to satisfy any prog player listening.

hateplow 08-05-2008 02:38 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
I'm sure there is a thread on him already.
BUT...
The most influential drummer in my life, by far. A perfect mesh of funk, rock and metal. One of the "cleanest" drummers around. Frizzle Fry and Sailing the Seas of Cheese are 2 of the greatest drumming albums ever.
So...I guess he's pretty good...is the main point i'm driving at.

gongbass 08-05-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Tim is awesome! I've seen him live a few times with Primus and he's always fun to watch.
I do think his best playing was around the "Tales From the Punchbowl" era, recently he seems a little "tired" but I still love what he does. Always has fun sets to look at too!!!

crdirtRider856 08-08-2008 07:37 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hateplow (Post 466636)
I'm sure there is a thread on him already.
BUT...
The most influential drummer in my life, by far. A perfect mesh of funk, rock and metal. One of the "cleanest" drummers around. Frizzle Fry and Sailing the Seas of Cheese are 2 of the greatest drumming albums ever.
So...I guess he's pretty good...is the main point i'm driving at.

Well, I went through [size="3"]everypage of drummers here and didnt see his name, so if there is, sorry. But yeah, his style is such a mix, its really fun to listen to and gain inspiration from.Personally, I absolutely love Tales From the Punchbowl, but pretty much any Primus album is gold....From what I read at his page, Pork Soda was a"dark" period for him, I dont think it particulary reflects in his playing on that cd, but when compared to Seas of Cheese, it s definitely less "funky".

As for sounding "tired" recently(as Gongbass said) I cant really respond because I havent heard anything new or seen him play in a few years.I hope he s doing good these days and cant wait for something new. I think Antipop was just great and when I saw the "Hallucigenetics(?)" show, I was thoroughly impressed.

"I am Antipop, A Renegade of Funk Til the Day I Die" Gotta love Les!/SIZE]

MykeyInChains 08-08-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Herb is a fantastic drummer. I love this solo from him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbBvAEUaYo

Anyone know how he adds that odd wah-wah style effect on his drums? I think its probably something to do with triggers or something. Its subtle but it makes things kinda interesting.

intooder 08-28-2008 10:50 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MykeyInChains (Post 467580)
Herb is a fantastic drummer. I love this solo from him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbBvAEUaYo

Anyone know how he adds that odd wah-wah style effect on his drums? I think its probably something to do with triggers or something. Its subtle but it makes things kinda interesting.

That is a great solo. A good spread of his chops over that duration to keep it fun for that long.

Jim Penebaker 09-09-2008 01:48 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crdirtRider856 (Post 466607)
Very true. This is my favorite style of double bass. Not too many can pull it off like Herb. The full on "digadigadigadiga" has never really inspired me. Impressed me but never really made me want to sit down and try to do it like the "galloping" or "short spurts" style has. Gavin Harrison also comes to mind when I think of this type of d.b. work. Oh yeah, I was prepared to carry on this conversation with myself for as long as needed. LOL! If you ve ever seen em live, he and the band can pull off Rush pretty flawlessly. I saw them cover "La Villa Strangiato" here in Philly once, and if I didnt know any better, I would ve been fooled.

Yeah. Tim definitely has a unique style of double bass drumming. I think the thing that made me first realize that was hearing him on Sailing the Seas of Cheese. The tune "Jerry Was a Race Car Driver" has this 3 note spurt on double bass that fits nicely into a groove pattern. I remember Steve Smith saying that he picked up a few things from Tim and I think this may be one of them because I've heard Steve Smith do this 3 stroke ruff very often.

TampaDrummer 09-09-2008 02:25 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
I've been playing to Sailing the Seas of Cheese for years. Tim def does have a good powerful mixture of funk and rock to his style. I remember his huge red Pork Pie set from back in the 90's... ...man that set was beautiful; rocking the octobans and piccolo snare.

I was just going through my dusty stack of MD's last nite and found one with an article on him when he was with the Blue Man Group. Great article. Showed him rocking a Maple Starclassic kit with all of the bottom tom heads removed.

+1 for the Herb ;-)

Anchein Vouivra 09-12-2008 01:01 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
If there was only one drummer i wish i could play like, it would Tim Alexander. He has been my biggest influence for many years and still never get enough of his playing. My favourite Primus album is Tales From The PunchBowl and my favourite track ever is Over The Electric Grapewine..........always and still impossible to play for me.
Has anybody heard the album of his new band called Fata Morgana?

cantstandyourfunk 10-06-2008 12:39 AM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crdirtRider856 (Post 466607)
Very true. This is my favorite style of double bass. Not too many can pull it off like Herb. The full on "digadigadigadiga" has never really inspired me. Impressed me but never really made me want to sit down and try to do it like the "galloping" or "short spurts" style has. Gavin Harrison also comes to mind when I think of this type of d.b. work. Oh yeah, I was prepared to carry on this conversation with myself for as long as needed. LOL! If you ve ever seen em live, he and the band can pull off Rush pretty flawlessly. I saw them cover "La Villa Strangiato" here in Philly once, and if I didnt know any better, I would ve been fooled.

absolutely absolutely absolutely. tim is a great example of groove and technique yielding what's loosely termed "tasty"

Brooklyner 04-24-2009 06:57 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Tim's new band "Into The Presence" is finishing-up their east coast premiere over the next couple of weeks. They'll be in NYC next wednesday, 29 April 2009, at Pianos on Ludlow at Stanton... I'll be there.

This band has a 70's vintage rock sound with excellent original songs played by Tim and his bandmates, including a awesome vocals and guitar from Luis Maldonado and cello by Ana Lenchantin (who also played with A Perfect Circle).

Here's the band's myspace page (with tour schedule):
http://www.myspace.com/intothepresence

Thunderhoof 04-25-2009 12:58 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
I listed him as one of my influences on my introduction page actually. Great solid drummer.

Zeus Mutation 02-03-2011 10:23 PM

Re: Tim "Herb" Alexander
 
Wow! I'm surprised this is such a small thread in comparison to others... It seems as if TA doesn't like a lot of attention, its hard to find much about him.

His work with Primus is everything I like... and I hear his other work is even better.


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