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Vinnysimmo 02-03-2008 11:18 PM

Charlie Watts
 
Forgive me if there already is a thread on him, but i could not find one.

Another of my favorite drummers. He has (IMO) sublime taste and groove when playing.

Any other fans of his on these boards?

Vinnysimmo 02-19-2008 09:57 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Noone?...............

Disco Stu 02-21-2008 05:48 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Thanks for starting this thread. It's a shame there wasn't one already. Yes, Charlie is a great drummer, a great musician, very groovy, and an integral part of the sound of the Stones. When I get the time, I plan to line up my Stones tunes and really study what Charlie's doing.

harryconway 02-21-2008 08:59 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
The thing I love the "most" about Charlie is he's been playing the same drum kit for 46 years (or so).

Jeremy Bender 02-21-2008 05:27 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Hard to imagine their music without his playing.

Vinnysimmo 02-22-2008 08:02 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Bender (Post 412142)
Hard to imagine their music without his playing.

Couldn't have said it better meself.

Disco Stu 02-23-2008 05:43 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 412062)
The thing I love the "most" about Charlie is he's been playing the same drum kit for 46 years (or so).

I didn't know that, but it is pretty cool. I guess he found something he liked and stuck with it. I imagine it also helps to make his drumming instantly recognizable.

gretsch223 02-25-2008 01:08 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Charlie is my inspiration and the reason why I started drums...He doesn't have crazy chops like other guys, but his playing is simple and fits The Rolling Stones' music, well. He also has a passion for jazz and has numerous albums as a leader playing jazz.

Minority Of One 02-25-2008 08:39 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 412062)
The thing I love the "most" about Charlie is he's been playing the same drum kit for 46 years (or so).

And aparently (i havent researched it) he doesent actually have any cymbal endorsements?

ive heard that he just uses any cymbals that he finds and likes

aydee 02-25-2008 09:42 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Thats really cool that he played the same kit. Says something about the man..

Leadfoot 02-25-2008 12:39 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Charlie is a great drummer. No, he doesn't display blazing chops & he can't play 1200 beats per minute on his kick drum, he doesn't have to, he's Charlie Watts. He plays for the music & does it better than most. There is much to learn from him & his playing style.

Postlethwaite Windschitl 03-30-2008 12:52 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Sorry, guys, but Charlie used Ludwigs until around Dec. 1966/Jan. 1967. He also used matched grip at that time.

When he switched drums to Gretsch, he also switched from matched to traditional grip. Apparently he got inspired by his jazz roots to switch drums and grips.

Check out photographs of the Stones before '67 and you'll see it: Ludwigs and matched grip. In Bill Wyman's "Rolling with the Stones" and in the compilation book "According to the Rolling Stones," there are multiple pictures of Charlie before he became the Gretsch man we all know and love.

Personally, I think his definitive drumming came after the switch.

PW

harryconway 03-30-2008 01:42 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Yes, as I've delved into "Uncle Charlie" kit history a bit more, seems like he started out on Premiers (like most UK drummers), but jumped to Ludwigs as soon as he could. Had a Black Ludwig kit, and a Black Diamond Pearl kit. And picked up Gretsch, like PW states, 66-67. That makes his Gretsch kit already 10 years old when he got it.

GRUNTERSDAD 03-30-2008 02:47 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aydee (Post 413248)
Thats really cool that he played the same kit. Says something about the man..

About the man and the Gretsch.

harryconway 03-30-2008 06:05 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 424193)
About the man and the Gretsch.

Indeed, he probably could have had his pick of "any new set" from "any number of manufactures" and he opted to bang on a "used" Gretsch kit.

joeybeats 03-30-2008 09:05 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Get Off Of My Cloud, The Last Time, Lets Spend The Night Together, Paint It Black, I Can't Get No Satisfaction, Under My Thumb, Ruby Tuesday, Sympathy For The Devil, Street Fighting Man ... and on and on and on. Man, the guy invented perfect rock & roll drumming. You young guys, run and download those songs. This stuff is R&R 101. Joey

Rick_Strong 03-30-2008 12:01 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Just watched Four Flicks (Stadium and Arena), Watts certainly holds the band together.

goughy 03-30-2008 12:21 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
I've heard a story where when Mick and Keith wanna tour they ring Charlie; he'll say no so they don't tour. Next year they try again and he'll go 'yes' and they're off. The other is that it's Charlie that has managed to keep the band together for all these years. He seems the suave gentleman off the kit, and on the kit too!

The Keith Moon 04-25-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Yes, I like Charley Watts as well.
Keith Moon and Charley Watts, both extremes to me.
I like Charley because with just one tom tom he does very creative, but simple licks as well suited for the stones music.... and he is not flashy either... has in depth quality.
I have never seen him playing solos

...... to me drum solos are boring.

Keith Moon is the only drummer I have seen playing with the music , actually doing " solos" through out the song, which seems so brilliant.

Roeder 04-27-2008 03:45 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Watts has this great "lift" thing he does with his right hand on certain beats, just on the back beat he'll throw in this 1/4 note pause that opens up the sound and makes the snare hit more up front and not buried with the hats. Very tasteful and subtle.

Tom Sawyer 04-27-2008 05:04 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Very nice person, and grooving drummer.

The Keith Moon 05-30-2008 07:05 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roeder (Post 434118)
Watts has this great "lift" thing he does with his right hand on certain beats, just on the back beat he'll throw in this 1/4 note pause that opens up the sound and makes the snare hit more up front and not buried with the hats. Very tasteful and subtle.

Thats how I started to play and still play.

Pocketman 05-30-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
A couple of years ago I got to visit the DW factory and they showed me a picture of Charlie Watts playing Terry Bozzio's monsterous kit. Needless to say it was a very funny!

slingerland755 05-30-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pocketman (Post 443915)
A couple of years ago I got to visit the DW factory and they showed me a picture of Charlie Watts playing Terry Bozzio's monsterous kit. Needless to say it was a very funny!

I would love to see that pic.

Muckster 11-20-2008 11:11 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Yeah, Charlie is great. The reason i first bought a china type cymbal was because of his playing on "She's So Cold."

Ian Williams 11-21-2008 12:46 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
I like to play on drums: Tumbling Dice, Midnight Rambler, Gimme Shelter.

All the Best,

Pachikara-Tharakan 12-24-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Charley Watts is my favorite and inspiration from all the songs that I heard. I am a tabla player but I love the Rolling Stones and the way Charley plays along. Personally I like him for his modesty and simpler approach. He is my role model.

jazzbo 01-04-2009 11:36 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harryconway (Post 424180)
Yes, as I've delved into "Uncle Charlie" kit history a bit more, seems like he started out on Premiers (like most UK drummers), but jumped to Ludwigs as soon as he could. Had a Black Ludwig kit, and a Black Diamond Pearl kit. And picked up Gretsch, like PW states, 66-67. That makes his Gretsch kit already 10 years old when he got it.

I've read that Charlie switched to Gretsch in 1968 . Take a look at the cover of GET YOUR YA YAS OUT and you'll see him carrying a black Gretsch bass drum . He played this black kit for a few years before latching onto the natural maple 50's set he has been playing for years now . This kit was appropriated from S.I.R. recording studio in NYC in the 70's sometime . Apparently he was there for some recording , fell in love the sound of it , and made the studio an offer it couldn't refuse .

mattsdrums 01-06-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
man ... Charlie is one of my absolute faves - Not only does he drum from a crossfire hurricane, but check out those threads (I bet Saville Row has done alright out of him over the years!)!!

I've had the good fortune to see him not only with The Stones, but also with his quintet at a small London club and also a couple of times at Ronnie Scotts with his tentet. Always an absolute pleasure to hear him play! I was fortunate enough to meet him and have a chat at The 100 club & the man is so humble and genuinely surprised that HE has been any kind of influence on any drummer!

Love the '57 Gretsch's too. He has a fine collection of vintage drums I believe - including some real gems (Sonny Greer's Duke Ellington set ...bought from Steve Maxwell's in Chicago)..

kwolf68 01-08-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
While I don't like the drumming of Charlie Watts in the least, I must admit he's been there so long he's sorta like an institution. And at this stage in the game with the Stones now playing well into their 80s, it would be sad to see him replaced.

Pachikara-Tharakan 01-08-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Almost anyone can play along Stones music, as long as the drummer doesnt show off with theatrical chops and all...... So technically, there wont be any difference if we hear a different drummer in Stones music, but to see the stones live without Watts is a sad thing, for millions of stones fans like me.

onedevilsst 01-08-2009 09:27 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Charlie talks you round his kit in this vid:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7PZug4854sI

Apprently bought the kit off company he had hired it off for a tour.

Love the Gretsch, have the same one in Cherry.

Incidentally never paid much attention to him until I saw the Scorsese film. I got hypnotised by his really weird style, now I cant get enough of Charlies' playing!!

Pachikara-Tharakan 01-10-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
His humbleness and self confidence.. thats what inspires me. He likes to be called as a band member, not a solo artist who gets hired for any type of music like Steve Gadd, who is a brilliant drummer.

Even though I am no way near Charley , I like to be like him, being a back seat guy who plays simply with a smaller kit.

Pollyanna 12-06-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Charlie grooves ... and grooves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOncnLgS3tA

Skulmoski 12-06-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
There are few other drummers that I readlly admire and Charlie is in a league with few others. May you live to be one hundred with an extra year to repent!

Thanks for the beats Charlie!

GJS

bonzolead 12-06-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Love Charlie Watts no flash,just cool my fav CW tune is "Can't you hear me knocking" great Stones tune you can hear the jazz influence for sure. too bad he looks like a mortician with a bunch of dead guys LMAO

Bonzolead

larryace 12-06-2009 06:18 PM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
I feel bad for not jumping in the bandwagon here, but I have to be honest. I'm not crazy about his 8th note pause on the HH for the back beat, it sounds too tentative and uncontinuous to me. Sorry Charley. I don't dislike his playing, I do like his tone, but his playing just never tripped my trap. He does make the song work however.
He is a gentleman for sure, personally I like him better than his playing.
For simple styled drumming, I'll take Ringo every time. No disrespect to Charley. He's had a helluva ride.

Pollyanna 12-08-2009 08:56 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larryace (Post 639308)
He is a gentleman for sure, personally I like him better than his playing.

How down-to-earth and humble is Charlie? This much.

I really enjoyed this interview. The whole vid was well edited, flashing from Jazz You to his comments. Love it when he says drums are acoustically the loudest thing in a band, immediately followed by a snare WHACK

boomstick 12-20-2009 06:05 AM

Re: Charlie Watts
 
When I read ads from bands/musicians searching for a drummer, time and time again I see Watts mentioned as the kind of drummer they are looking for. Songwriters love his style, because he always makes the song groove and he's never distracting or overbearing.

DonVira 03-19-2010 09:54 AM

Charlie Watts
 
Does anyone know why Charlie Watts doesn't hit the hi-hat and the snare at the same time?


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