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bilkay 10-28-2007 03:58 PM

Istanbul Agop Picture-Fest
 
Since we kinda got this started in the '06 Limited Edition thread......

.....SHOW US YOUR AGOP BLING!!!............

20", 1617g Agop Special Edition Jazz ride:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/bilkay/SE20Top.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...SE20Bottom.jpg

Drummer Karl 10-28-2007 04:58 PM

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Oookay...let`s go.

Here is my 21" Agop Mel Lewis Ride, 2134 grams light...two rivets. I simply love its sound, an awesome crash...but especially an amazing Ride cymbal with a woody stick definition and a complex, dark sound:

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...rl/Bild011.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8.../Bild013-1.jpg

And my Agop Turk hats which I got after the Mel Lewis beauty. The bottom is 964 grams light, the top one 928 grams. Natural, raw, earthy...fabulous chick.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8.../Bild008-1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...rl/Bild014.jpg

I hope I can get a nice SE 22" Ride...if yes, I`ll post some pics of course! =)

Karl

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:01 PM

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Boy i've done a complete documentation of my Agop collection so i've got much to offer here Bill.

I'll start with my 22" Turk Jazz Ride 2250g with the incorrect Sultan logo:

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:07 PM

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Next up the SE Jazz Rides. First one 21" SE 2325g then the 22" SE TW at 2235g:

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:12 PM

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The Limited Edition rides next. 22" 06 2385g #027,20.5" 25th Anniversary 1864g #268:

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:16 PM

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The Mel Lewis cymbals. 21" Mel Lewis ride 2 rivets 2180g,18" Mel Lewis Crash Ride 1400g:

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:21 PM

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Sultan 14" crash 740g and i'll finish with a group shot which includes my 14" Agop Signature hats top-1025g bottom-1200g.

That's it Bill!

aydee 10-28-2007 07:24 PM

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This is like an exhibition of King Tut's treasure.I'm drooling, Stan

Steamer 10-28-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aydee (Post 373312)
This is like an exhibition of King Tut's treasure.I'm drooling, Stan

Yup bronze treasure straight from the local Agop "vault" aydee.

zambizzi 10-28-2007 07:53 PM

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Forgive me, I'm young, but could someone illustrate the difference between all these different handmade Turkish cymbals? I've never played Bosphorus, Istanbul, TRX, etc. but am intrigued by the "old world" methods and hand lathing, hammering, finishing, etc.

TRX is the newcomer but their MD review last year was favorable...and their cymbals are beautiful looking as well.

Sorry to hijack, not my intention - Karl those hats are probably the most beautiful I've ever seen, I can only imagine what they sound like!

Everything is beautiful...you can see (and no doubt hear) the manual labor that was put into them.

Steamer 10-28-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by zambizzi (Post 373325)
Forgive me, I'm young, but could someone illustrate the difference between all these different handmade Turkish cymbals? I've never played Bosphorus, Istanbul, TRX, etc. but am intrigued by the "old world" methods and hand lathing, hammering, finishing, etc.

TRX is the newcomer but their MD review last year was favorable...and their cymbals are beautiful looking as well.

Sorry to hijack, not my intention - Karl those hats are probably the most beautiful I've ever seen, I can only imagine what they sound like!

Everything is beautiful...you can see (and no doubt hear) the manual labor that was put into them.


Zambizzi go to Drum Gear/ Cymbals section and find the thread "Istanbul Agop Production Video" and watch how the cymbals are made from individual castings onwards since it will give you a good feel for the hand labour/craftmanship that goes into this particular line of Turkish handmade cymbals.

bilkay 10-28-2007 08:26 PM

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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...de20-1960g.jpg

20", 1960g Mel Lewis ride

Drumms 10-28-2007 08:45 PM

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Here are my Agops an a Mehmet ride. Not the best pics, but they're the only I've got.

Specs:
- 10" Alchemy Rock splash - SOLD
- 14" Alchemy Regular hi-hats
- 22" Mehmet Sultan ride - Weighs a bit more than 3000 grams

I really like Istanbuls, whether they're Agops or Mehmets.

bilkay 10-28-2007 08:53 PM

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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...23-2871g-a.jpg

23", 2871g Agop Signature ride

Drummer Karl 10-28-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zambizzi (Post 373325)
Karl those hats are probably the most beautiful I've ever seen, I can only imagine what they sound like!

Thanks very much. Here you can find some simple sound clips...

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...rk+hats&page=3

Though I think those sound clips can just give a rough idea, they sound even better live. :-)

Karl

Steamer 10-28-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373342)

Oh how I would love to hear that one at that weight Bill. Keep them coming!.

KONA 10-28-2007 10:25 PM

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Nice cymbals guys! This is a great thread for those who have Istanbul cymbals and those that may want to buy some - nice going.

This is what I picked up at Heratbeat Percussion a few weeks ago. Some of you have seen these on onother thread - but I think they have to go here!

The Turk 16" Crash Ride here was a factory error when ordered. It was suppose to be a Traditional Paperthin Crash (CPT16) but the factory wrote it up as (CRT16) which produced a very unusual (rare too I guess) 16" TURK Crash/Ride. There are only three I think - so I bought one while I was in Cymbaland (you know where that is Steamer).

Steamer 10-28-2007 10:35 PM

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What a way to join the Istanbul Agop pic party Kona,with style!. Another "field of dreams" from "Cymbaland" and yes I tried those odd ball Turk crashes and they were very nice indeed at one of my several visits to the what I fondly now call "the vault".

bilkay 10-28-2007 10:36 PM

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More pics of the 22", 2671g Istanbul Agop SE prototype ride:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...Proto22Top.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...to22Bottom.jpg

Steamer 10-28-2007 10:49 PM

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That's very interesting Bill a real cross mix top and bottom of a standard SE and SE TW ride but certainly a one of a kind indeed.

Nice to see everyones Agop pies so far. Thanks Bill for starting the fun and Karl,Drumms and Kona so far for joining in on the festivities.

bilkay 10-29-2007 01:00 AM

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Here's another shot of the 22", 2439g '06 Limited Edition high bell ride.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...y/IMG_0861.jpg

Steamer 10-29-2007 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373401)
Here's another shot of the 22", 2439g '06 Limited Edition high bell ride.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...y/IMG_0861.jpg


I really wanted to hear this version Bill the high bell as it's called. The local Agop distributor had only early samples of the 06 low bells actually 5 when I tested them in the Summer. He had no high bells for reference. I'll gather from the shape and size of the bell they deliver quite a different wash and stick sound than the low bell {jazz bell model}.

KONA 10-29-2007 01:31 AM

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bikay:

That 22 jazz Ride and the Signature 23 - nice!
I have one Alchemy pictured here. Right now it's sitting on a HQ drum mute on top of my 14x14 tom (I have no cymbal stands yet - those parts for my rack system are on order) and I'm playing it between cowbell, snare, hi hat (Mel Lewis 14's and muted toms) - it sounds great. I love that solid "bell" sound and it really sounds nice while getting into the faster latin/funk rhythms! I know - it's a little different, but hey, it's all I can do for now - and I'm having fun with it and at the same time building on my "chops" - I'm a little rusty after not playing for 31 years!

HERE I HAVE THE 10" ALCHEMY BELL,
20" TRADITIONAL ORIGINAL RIDE
AND THE MEL LEWIS 18" CRASH RIDE

bilkay 10-29-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steamer (Post 373406)
I really wanted to hear this version Bill the high bell as it's called. The local Agop distributor had only early samples of the 06 low bells actually 5 when I tested them in the Summer. He had no high bells for reference. I'll gather from the shape and size of the bell they deliver quite a different wash and stick sound than the low bell {jazz bell model}.

The high bell is a bit drier than the low bell I had, but it certainly isn't a dry cymbal. The beauty of the low bell was that it was remarkably "in tune" with itself, meaning that the blend of the undercurrent was very harmonious and was balanced with the stick. However, it needed to be played more gently than I wanted to play it (think piano trio). The high bell can take more of a beating, with the stick remaining on top.

bilkay 10-29-2007 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KONA (Post 373409)
bikay:

That 22 jazz Ride and the Signature 23 - nice!
I have one Alchemy pictured here. Right now it's sitting on a HQ drum mute on top of my 14x14 tom (I have no cymbal stands yet - those parts for my rack system are on order) and I'm playing it between cowbell, snare, hi hat (Mel Lewis 14's and muted toms) - it sounds great. I love that solid "bell" sound and it really sounds nice while getting into the faster latin/funk rhythms! I know - it's a little different, but hey, it's all I can do for now - and I'm having fun with it and at the same time building on my "chops" - I'm a little rusty after not playing for 31 years!

HERE I HAVE THE 10" ALCHEMY BELL,
20" TRADITIONAL ORIGINAL RIDE
AND THE MEL LEWIS 18" CRASH RIDE

Very nice collection, KONA!

Steamer 10-29-2007 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373458)
The high bell is a bit drier than the low bell I had, but it certainly isn't a dry cymbal. The beauty of the low bell was that it was remarkably "in tune" with itself, meaning that the blend of the undercurrent was very harmonious and was balanced with the stick. However, it needed to be played more gently than I wanted to play it (think piano trio). The high bell can take more of a beating, with the stick remaining on top.


Thanks for the feedback Bill. Sounds like in some ways closer in character to my 20.5" 25th Anniversary ride. Would love to hear the 06 high bell in the flesh sometime down the road based on your description.

I use my 06 jazz bell pretty much exclusively in acoustic piano trio situations where it's blend is superb so your observations and comments follow suit with my experience with the cymbal and it's general character very well.

bilkay 10-29-2007 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steamer (Post 373461)
Thanks for the feedback Bill. Sounds like in some ways closer in character to my 20.5" 25th Anniversary ride. Would love to hear the 06 high bell in the flesh sometime down the road based on your description.

I use my 06 jazz bell pretty much exclusively in acoustic piano trio situations where it's blend is superb so your observations and comments follow suit with my experience with the cymbal and it's general character very well.

I would characterize my 1858g 25th Anniversary ride as closer to the low bell than the high bell- kinda washy.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...e60-1858ga.jpg

Steamer 10-29-2007 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373468)
I would characterize my 1858g 25th Anniversary ride as closer to the low bell than the high bell- kinda washy.....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...e60-1858ga.jpg

I was thinking of the smoothness of the wash and the higher degree of clarity of attack and clear musical bell coming from the 25th Bill. Yes my 25th has alot of wash too but compared to my very harmonically complex dark and evil sizzling 06 with it's high pitched cutting but musical bell I have the 25th is pretty pure in attack in direct side by side comparison. I would imagine then that the 06 high bell is less harmonically complex and more in line with the direct smoothness of sound of the 25th but with the stick sitting more on top than the 25th with a little more meat on the bone sound and clear lower pitch bell to boot. I guess that's what I was trying to get across. Makes sense or no Bill?.

bilkay 10-29-2007 06:56 AM

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Your description makes perfect sense, Stan.

bilkay 10-29-2007 07:00 AM

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22", 2255g Agop Vezir ride

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...2-2255gtop.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...255gbottom.jpg

Steamer 10-29-2007 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373484)
Your description makes perfect sense, Stan.

Thanks.Well in that case Bill that high bell 06 of yours must be a real beauty of a sound to hear in person.

Steamer 10-29-2007 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bilkay (Post 373485)

WOW! That's a stunner Bill. Never heard one of those yet.

bilkay 10-29-2007 03:57 PM

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This Vezir has piano trio written all over it. I've had a few quiet and woody Agop rides but this is the one I kept- I just can't let this one go!

I'll show some of the ones-that-got-away.....

bilkay 10-29-2007 04:02 PM

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22", 2320g Agop Special Edition Jazz ride

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...2SE2327Top.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...2327Bottom.jpg

This was one of the quiet ones I sold. I gravitated toward heavier Agop rides.

bilkay 10-31-2007 03:07 AM

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22", 2406g Agop SE TW

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...W222406Top.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...2406Bottom.jpg

Snowdogyyz 10-31-2007 10:11 PM

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Awesome thread! Some really great pies included here. Here are some of mine... sorry the pics aren't as good as the others in this thread!

In order of appearance: 14" sultan hats, 15" sultan hats, 12" alchemy power splash, 24" alchemy professional raw ride, 22" agop trash hit, 21" Mel Lewis rivet ride (10" trash hit underneath it), 22" alchemy pro china. I also own a 12" trash hit, not pictured.

Drumms 11-01-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowdogyyz (Post 374255)
Awesome thread! Some really great pies included here. Here are some of mine... sorry the pics aren't as good as the others in this thread!

In order of appearance: 14" sultan hats, 15" sultan hats, 12" alchemy power splash, 24" alchemy professional raw ride, 22" agop trash hit, 21" Mel Lewis rivet ride (10" trash hit underneath it), 22" alchemy pro china. I also own a 12" trash hit, not pictured.

Awesome collection! How do you like your Alchemys? Do you have any soundfiles of your cymbals?

Snowdogyyz 11-02-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Drumms (Post 374303)
Awesome collection! How do you like your Alchemys? Do you have any soundfiles of your cymbals?

I love the Alchemy's! They are definitely underrated cymbals. That 24" raw ride is simply killer. It was in AGOP's booth at NAMM in January and I had to have it. Everyone loved that ride when they tried it out. The china is what I was looking for for some time. The perfect trashy-china sound! I haven't recorded anything in some time (been really busy), but maybe one of these days I can free up a weekend to get some good files. I'll post them if I do.

bilkay 11-03-2007 03:54 PM

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Did you guys lose interest already?

22", 2600g Istanbul Agop Special Edition Jazz Tony Williams ride:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...22-2600g-d.jpg

Steamer 11-03-2007 06:09 PM

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Did you guys lose interest already?

22", 2600g Istanbul Agop Special Edition Jazz Tony Williams ride:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...22-2600g-d.jpg

Quite to the contrary Bill. Nice to see a few others join in and waiting to see what other newcomers have to show of their Agops once they come across this thread.

Nice TW by the way as is your entire Agop collection.


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