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Thrash Drummer 08-10-2007 04:01 AM

Slowest Metal Ever
 
The band is swallow the sun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBmB87C910
The drummer must be bored out of his mind..I know I would be.
Anyway I thought I'd share, its a good band is your into that dark sounding stuff.

Drunkie 08-10-2007 04:27 AM

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Thats a pretty good song.

Yeah, is a bit slow. And he's probably bored. But its relaxing to go from what he's probably being doing to slow. Give him some time to chill. If you know what i mean.

voldak 08-10-2007 04:47 AM

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I love Doom Metal. :) Swallow the Sun is a good band. If you are really into very very slow metal, check out "Teeth of Lion Rule the Divine" EXTREMELY slow metal. Even slower than Swallow the Sun. Also Sunn 0))) I'm not too familiar with them, but they are slow (i don't think they have drums though)

Velimor 08-10-2007 04:50 AM

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I'm not a huge doom metal fan, but the song was pretty good. Reverend Bizarre and Mournful Congregation are my favorite doom metal bands, the latter being very sloooooooooooow.

fourstringdrums 08-10-2007 05:00 AM

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How do you count this? I'm having a really hard time finding the one, unless it's just too slow for my brain :)

*edit* Oh god, this style of singing is even worse in a song this slow.

maddrummr 08-10-2007 05:18 AM

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i wonder how hard his throat hurts after one concert.

Velimor 08-10-2007 07:32 AM

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I can respect that. Personally, I like growling, but much of the time I like a combination of growling and clean singing better. Bands like Folkearth, Falkenbach, and Menhir use clean singing a good portion of the time, but when the song calls for aggression, they growl. It all depends on the context. I wouldn't want to hear, say, Pungent Stench, using clean singing. It just doesn't sound right with grindcore. But I love a good power metal band, where a large emphasis is placed high-pitched singing much of the time.

Anyway, back to doom metal. To anyone who doesn't like growling, but likes what they heard in Thrash Drummer's video, Reverend Bizarre doesn't employ any growling. They're a little older school and have some Sabbath-y moments, but an excellent band.

fourstringdrums 08-10-2007 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Velimor (Post 346410)
It figures there would be some negative response to growling on a non-metal forum. First, I'll admit that he isn't the best vocalist I've heard, but this is the only time I've heard the band, and I could picture him sounding good in the studio. Second, growling, screaming, etc require talent and practice to sound good and to do it properly without damaging the vocal cords.



This is singing. Maybe not the kind you like, but it is a style of singing.

One question I've always had is why singers in metal bands like this even bother writing lyrics. You can't understand a word they say. He could be growling about rainbows and sunshine and we'd never know.

Velimor 08-10-2007 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fourstringdrums (Post 346428)
One question I've always had is why singers in metal bands like this even bother writing lyrics. You can't understand a word they say. He could be growling about rainbows and sunshine and we'd never know.

The songs and lyrics still have meaning, even if the listener can't understand.

Though it helps to have a copy of the lyrics to read while you listen ;)

LiveGoat 08-10-2007 09:58 AM

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Cookie Monster can croon! The Melvins were already doing this in the late eighties. And Sabbath in the early 70's

--LG

TopCat 08-10-2007 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveGoat (Post 346462)
Cookie Monster can croon! The Melvins were already doing this in the late eighties. And Sabbath in the early 70's

--LG

Bingo.

Not really my bag, but a good band nonetheless.

EDIT* Ok, Larlev, your posts are just narrow-minded nonsense. Like so many other arguments on this forum, to like this music is purely subjective. For you to make a statement like 'If you are going to sing...sing....no talent whatsoever in the vocals' is just letting everyone else know how ignorant you really are.

I mean, why would anyone like something you didn't think was good? hm?

It's just another form of artistic expression, some guy comes here to share his love for it and you shoot him down. Way to go pops.

SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ 08-10-2007 02:34 PM

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Ya, I was going to mention the Melvins and even Type O Negative already has this down. Their stuff is much better in my opinion.

el_frenko 08-10-2007 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Cookie Monster can croon!
hahahaha!!

i was going to say "chewbacca on ketamine", but i think your's is better :)

hawk9290 08-11-2007 12:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fourstringdrums (Post 346350)
How do you count this? I'm having a really hard time finding the one, unless it's just too slow for my brain :)

it took me a while to figure it out, but i think its 4/4
Between each crash (listening to his ride notes) I get sixteen beats, and the snare is on 5 and 13, so its just very slow sixteenth notes. The bass drum notes that slow make is hard to figure out, and i think i heard some triplets in there which makes it all the worse, but i'm counting 4/4 to it and its all working out.

fourstringdrums 08-11-2007 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk9290 (Post 346694)
it took me a while to figure it out, but i think its 4/4
Between each crash (listening to his ride notes) I get sixteen beats, and the snare is on 5 and 13, so its just very slow sixteenth notes. The bass drum notes that slow make is hard to figure out, and i think i heard some triplets in there which makes it all the worse, but i'm counting 4/4 to it and its all working out.

I think he has a displaced (right word?) backbeat in there that makes it feel like something else as well. I think that's what confused me the most.

kung_f00 08-11-2007 04:41 PM

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I wasn't big on that particular video, but I checked out some others, and I really liked Descending Winters. I think one of the advantages of playing to the slower tempo (for the drummer) is that he can add more to a fill. For metal, yeah, it's slow.. but it's still pretty damn good.

However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

That Guy 08-11-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kung_f00 (Post 346890)
However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

Anything goes these days and I think its cool. Now, music did have that older hair-band Europe who had a keyboardist, and some people considered them to be metal, I'M NOT ONE.

*sings*.. its the final countdown.

Oh god, thats gonna be in my head all day.

SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ 08-11-2007 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kung_f00 (Post 346890)
However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

Hah.. Keyboards were widely used in metal of the 90s. The keyboard player for Manson was my favorite member of the band when I was into them years ago. Nine Inch Nails?

Thrash Drummer 08-11-2007 05:57 PM

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I think keyboardists fit in certain styles of metal..
In my opinion keyboardists sound best when they add symphonic parts to the song, like all of dimmu borgir's stuff. The only other thing they should be able to do in metal is blinding solos at the speed of light. (Children of Bodom). Other than those things.. nothing seems to fit the genre.

I like bands that have the effects of a keyboardist.

secondXheartbeat 08-11-2007 06:52 PM

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Keyboards are always fun, if used properly and without campy effects.



As for the band, I'm not a HUGE fan of doom but I can respect them as musicians and the drummer sounds very creative.

jonescrusher 08-11-2007 07:55 PM

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This makes me want to dig out my old video tapes of Noisy Mothers, which some UK cats might remember from the 90's. One sticks in my mind of footage of Dream Theater (!) at Ronnie Scott's (!!) with guest vocals from Barney of Napalm Death (!!!) covering Metallica's Damage Inc. (!!!). Awesome Vocals, awesome growler.

metalheadeza666 08-11-2007 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunkie (Post 346336)

Yeah, is a bit slow. And he's probably bored. But its relaxing to go from what he's probably being doing to slow. Give him some time to chill. If you know what i mean.


too true =]
i know that i deffinatley appreciate a break during a set

takes a level of appreciation really doesn't it? i definatley like the track, but i couldn't help but feel a little, for want of a better word, frustrated listening to it, waiting for the band to break off into a more upbeat part, oh well

peace

Acronomic 08-11-2007 11:02 PM

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This band is great! I don't think they are magnificent live yet, but their studio work is just incredible. I enjoy the drumming as well.

moe.ron 08-12-2007 06:02 PM

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my favorite slow metal of all time is soundgarden's 4th of july no growling just perfection

MSUMetal 08-12-2007 07:38 PM

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Speeking of slow (I haven't listened yet) anyone else notice on one of their other video's it's called "Don't Fall Asleep?" I thought it was kinda funny...

mofle 08-12-2007 07:54 PM

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THIS is slow.

Sunn 0))) Live

Anchein Vouivra 08-13-2007 11:44 AM

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Sunn 0))) freaks me out, damn nightmarish music. I've heard they do shows in cathedrals that must be some kind tortured experience to live specially when they play with twisted guests such as Merzbow, Jazzkammer or Peter Rohberg.

Mediocrefunkybeat 08-13-2007 11:47 AM

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Sounds like one of the songs from 'White 2'. Bass Aliens perhaps? I have that album and I used to like it a lot. I've still got it somewhere, maybe I'll break it out again.

mofle 08-13-2007 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchein Vouivra (Post 347377)
Sunn 0))) freaks me out, damn nightmarish music. I've heard they do shows in cathedrals that must be some kind tortured experience to live specially when they play with twisted guests such as Merzbow, Jazzkammer or Peter Rohberg.

They played in a cathdral near where I live in Norway. I regret that I never got to see them...
It would have been a creepy experience...

Mr. Pasquini 08-13-2007 06:30 PM

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My favorite doom metal band is The Sword... They're supposed to be in the studio recording a new album but that could just be speculation. They're a lot different than these guys.

volume_3 08-13-2007 07:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MSUMetal (Post 347207)
Speeking of slow (I haven't listened yet) anyone else notice on one of their other video's it's called "Don't Fall Asleep?" I thought it was kinda funny...

Ha i noticed that too, made me chuckle.

Sunn O))) are great, really haunting stuff.

I watched the video... it was good, uptil the point where the guys starts to "sing".

I really like metal music, im a big fan of bands like Pelican and Isis, etc, but this is just a bit boring for me.

mikei 08-14-2007 12:52 AM

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That singer ruined it for me.

My god, why do people think that type of singing is cool?

I do think that from a drumming perspective, it would be tough to keep good time that slow. Hard to get into the groove

TheGroceryman 08-14-2007 01:00 AM

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THIS is slow.

Sunn 0))) Live
Can you even legitemately call that music? Pff... i cant.

radiofriendlyunitshifter 08-14-2007 04:51 AM

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good thing he brought that second bass drum.

brittc89 08-14-2007 08:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGroceryman (Post 347636)
Can you even legitemately call that music? Pff... i cant.

I was having trouble really finding the appeal of that as well.

crdirtRider856 06-30-2008 07:14 AM

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Wow, a little too slow for me but I could listen to it. I know this thread hasnt had a post in almost a year but whatever. Check out the bands- Kyuss, St fightis, or Crowbar, my favorite doom rock band, pretty cool drums too

burnthehero 06-30-2008 07:19 AM

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Those guys must be really depressed.

FourOnSix 06-30-2008 07:34 PM

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I listened to 3 sun 0))) videos and waited for them to actually start playing something...


...needless to say, I was disapointed. IT sounds like a 7 year old with a half stack. There was a trombone and a keyboard in the background. But all I could hear was

BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,BLAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA,BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA....


I can't imagine anything more annoying. I feel like this isn't even actuall music, just noise that gets played at guantanamo bay as a form of torture.

Mediocrefunkybeat 06-30-2008 07:36 PM

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Still listening to White 2 over here and still loving it. It's fantastic, takes the Eno concept of ambient backgrounds to the new generation. Brilliant.

Fett2oo5 06-30-2008 07:58 PM

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wow, um.....
To each his own I guess. I couldn't get past 2 minutes of it, I didn't like it.

I really tried to give it a shot, I listen to a very wide range of music, but I just couldn't listen to it any more, sorry.

@ fourstringdrums : it's difficult to count what he is playing because he isn't staying in time, he is fluxuating the tempo to much.


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