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tamadrummer132 04-03-2007 04:34 AM

Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Well i searched for it, and i couldnt believe he wasnt on there!

Bernhard Purdie is a drummer that doesnt show off his chops that much, but he plays with more groove and feeling than any other drummer iv seen.

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers...rd_Purdie.html

not to mention hes hillarios to listen to.

check him out

foursticks 04-03-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
There was actually a thread on him a while back... It could have been deleted.

Needless to say, Bernard Purdie has the fattest groove in the world and he's is the epitome of what drumming is all about: Laying down some great grooves, making weird noises and creating great music whilst having fun.

Fat Elvis 04-04-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Yeah 2 posts does not do this GREAT drummer justice. I was just watching his videos again.... he plays with such feeling and such a sweet groove. Those drummers that worship Gadd should look at purdie to see where gadd got his feeling from. When I watch Gadd (who i love, by the way), you can see Bernard Purdie all through him.

Belgiandrummer 04-04-2007 10:57 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Some people on youtube posted this:

flapsnappy (4 months ago)
I was a Purdie fan until I did research on the artists and records HE said he played on/with. Turned out he's a patalogical liar. He claims he played on mostly all of the Beatles records! Most of the Bowie records. McCartney and Bowie laughed when I brought this up. Sometimes you dig yourself so deep ya can't get out. The sad thing is he doe's have the groove from hell and should just let the drumming do the talking. Take the 'AJA' record for instance.

CLWarunki (2 months ago)
You might have a point there, but nobody can prove wether or not he did or didn't ghost on any beatles sessions etc... so it's still a mystery, but with all his credentials WHY WOULD HE NEED TO LIE!? Oh and "Aja" was not just Purdie... remember Gadd? I think there was a 3rd drummer on that record too. So you know Bowie and McCartney personally eh?

theonlyrealMugsy (2 months ago)
I think Bernard was the no.1 drum call in L.A. It's a documented fact that there were some ghost drums on Beatle Albums. Just who remained a secret so youngsters weren't disallusioned with their heroes. BP wouldn't have to lie about a thing. His talent lies in laying it down under pressure of tape rolling without choking. That's why he's the man.

Anyone knows if some of that is true?? Or did these guys just wanted some attention?

murphinelli 04-04-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Someone on the web did a pretty thorough analysis on what Bernard claimed he did...I'll try and find it today. The conclusion was that it is possible he may have played on one or two obscure tracks that we've probably never heard.

murphinelli 04-04-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Here is the analysis: http://www.jimvallance.com/03-projec...pg-purdie.html

You be the judge...

Belgiandrummer 04-04-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Thanks a lot!! I believe Purdie for 95% percent, "I got paid in five figures [$10,000 or more]," Purdie adds, "and that was the largest amount of money I'd ever gotten in my life. I thought they were paying me all that money because they liked what I played. Then [Epstein] told me I was being paid to keep my mouth shut." sounds pretty credible to me but the fact he always makes jokes make it look like he's trying to fool us, or trying to get recognition for all his work, or trying to be interesting. A lot of people have spread mysteries and remarquable stories all over the world (like Plato with Atlantis, which was just a tale etc.). I don't know.
It's still an amazing drummer!

Belgiandrummer 04-04-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
One moment he says he overdubbed Ringo's tracks and then he says: ''Ringo is not on anything!''! I really would like to read that book he says he's writing. I'll read the whole story next week.

dawg 04-05-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
i suppose it's possible...but not probable. mc cartney did play drums on a couple of beatle tracks...that's documented in the book "the beatles-in their own words" but if you listen to the feel of the tracks and you are familar with ringo's playing style, i truly doubt purdie was on any released tracks. however it's possible at some point he played or recorded (jammed?) with the beatles, but i just haven't heard any songs that sound like purdy.

Fat Elvis 04-05-2007 01:30 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
well, i have little opinion on the matter -- even though i like BP's style more than ringo's. However, as any good detective would say, who has more to lose and gain? Obviously someone like Bernard Purdie with his credentials does not need to 'say' he played with the beatles to be recognized as one of the greats.

However to say that ringo played on none of the early beatles would be a tsunami-sized rock scandal that would dwarf milli vanilli.

Just as food for thought, Ringo and those associated with the Beatles have FAR MORE to lose than Bernard does to gain should anything be true about his statements. In fact, he really has nothing to gain at all.

The fact that his story did not change over 30 years also makes one think -- you know how lies tend to grow? Nope, in his case, it was the same statements 21 tracks, multiple drummers, none were ringo.

As far as ringo playing the stype effortlessly -- i mean, come on.... it's not like it was Gadd up there doing something WAY out of the box. Those early drum tracks were something that most compitent drummers could mimmic easily with little practice.

Belgiandrummer 04-05-2007 10:37 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Maybe Purdie did the 21 recordings but they never used them anyway...

Pocketman 04-05-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 296423)
As far as ringo playing the stype effortlessly -- i mean, come on.... it's not like it was Gadd up there doing something WAY out of the box. Those early drum tracks were something that most compitent drummers could mimmic easily with little practice.

That has always been the issue. Why would Purdie claim to be playing on tracks that are not attributed as anything special? I have heard that he (Purdie) really doesn't bother bringing this topic up any moe and brushes it aside when it is brought up to him. Even if it is true, he has probably concluded the topic does more harm to his rep than good.

That controversy aside, I absolutely love his playing. I try and see him whenever he plays in NYC. I don't know how he does it. His playing just exudes joy. His vocal expressions are part of his sound! And his solos are just as groovy too! I could actually take my wife to one of his clinics and she would love it! Can't say the same for a Virgil or Lang clinic.

JCM 04-05-2007 10:33 PM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
I love this guy! He brings so much character to the drumset. I especially like what he says at the end of his 16th note video ' pssh pssh yeahhhh''. He could play a groove badly and still make it sound good!

max77 04-06-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Oh yeahhhhhh! He's awesome.

churchdrummer 11-16-2007 08:14 AM

Re: Bernhard Purdie
 
Well i know he did wonders on the Goutcho album for Steely Dan(Babalon sisters),man
his shuffle is great.Hes on of my favorite drummers,Dont know about the Beattles or nothing,dont care,all i know is he's great,most recorded drummer(studio).High in demand

gretschgal1 12-03-2007 10:53 PM

BERNARD PURDIE PODCAST INTERVIEW
 
If you guys want to hear a recent interview Bernard did, please go to:

http://www.insidemusicast.com

It's a wonderful thing to hear of Bernard's upbringing, and how he approaches the art of playing kit. He also speaks very highly of his friend Jeff Porcaro.


Checkit out!
T

irish_steve 12-19-2007 03:55 PM

Re: BERNARD PURDIE PODCAST INTERVIEW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gretschgal1 (Post 384515)
If you guys want to hear a recent interview Bernard did, please go to:

http://www.insidemusicast.com

It's a wonderful thing to hear of Bernard's upbringing, and how he approaches the art of playing kit. He also speaks very highly of his friend Jeff Porcaro.


Checkit out!
T

Thanks, gonna listen to this on the way home.

cantstandyourfunk 01-18-2008 12:45 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
May be Purdie didn't get his due share of attention, but hey, it's the "Purdie Shuffle" after all. Amen.

gretschgal1 01-18-2008 06:15 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
"...it's all STICK REBOUND!"


(HE confirmed a LOT of things for me with this...!).
From the interview Bernard did with a couple buddies of mine, he seems a great guy.
One of the best and most recorded guys on the planet.

That track record speaks for itself.
T

OldStampK 01-18-2008 07:07 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Thinking about it, I don't believe it went down the way Purdie claims it did.

I'm wondering how they could have done the overdubs with no bleed from the original tracks. I really don't know that much about recording technology, but I do know that even with today's techniques basic drum tracks are the hardest instrument to overdub. Why would they have bothered to record with Ringo in the first place? In those days it was common to bring in session guys to record the basic tracks.

Miguero 12-09-2008 08:56 AM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Purdie is one of my top 5 drum-heroes for sure! I had the chance to watch a show of his trio "The Godfathers of Groove" here in Brazil this year and it was absolutely awesome! Great drum class, learned more than in one month of studying... I even got to know him and took a picture with him!:

[IMG]http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8...agem016xs6.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/i...jpg/1/w640.png[/IMG]

justinrock 12-09-2008 09:19 AM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Bernard Purdie is a drum God. The guy has more groove than any drummer I can even think of. He was so smooth in all of this playing and all of his ghost note work is amazing. He is one drummer that I can learn something from everytime I watch him.

Man From The Past 12-11-2008 01:54 PM

I would have more respect for Pretty Purdie....
 
IF HE DIDN'T PLAY ON THE BEATLES ALBUMNS.

Let's face it, the Beatles were great poets. THEY WERE NOT KICK ASS, TAKE NO PRISONER MUSICIANS.

Ringo Starr is like Don Brewer - Garage band drummers. Nothing more and nothing less. Name me 5 complicated grooves from Ringo. Now name me 5 grooves from Jabo Starks, David Garibaldi, Jeff Pocaro, Steve Gadd, etc. Get the point?

If BP said he played on James Brown ablumns that actually had ground breaking new grooves then we would have something to talk about. But the Beatles? No drummer ear candy comes from Ringo.

jason

jonescrusher 12-11-2008 04:33 PM

Re: I would have more respect for Pretty Purdie....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Man From The Past (Post 512991)
IF HE DIDN'T PLAY ON THE BEATLES ALBUMNS.

Let's face it, the Beatles were great poets. THEY WERE NOT KICK ASS, TAKE NO PRISONER MUSICIANS.

Ringo Starr is like Don Brewer - Garage band drummers. Nothing more and nothing less. Name me 5 complicated grooves from Ringo. Now name me 5 grooves from Jabo Starks, David Garibaldi, Jeff Pocaro, Steve Gadd, etc. Get the point?



jason

Old argument is old. Unless you're a lefty playing on a right handed set up I defy to play Ringo's parts 100 % correct without a lot of preparation.

intooder 12-11-2008 09:01 PM

Re: I would have more respect for Pretty Purdie....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonescrusher (Post 513022)
Old argument is old. Unless you're a lefty playing on a right handed set up I defy to play Ringo's parts 100 % correct without a lot of preparation.

Even for a lefty on a righty kit, it's hard to mimic Ringo's feel and taste (just a couple of things that personalize a musician's sound) in the context of The Beatles' music.

caught 02-10-2009 03:53 PM

Bernard Purdie's Gear
 
Hi drummers
does anybody know what equipment Bernard Pretty Purdie is currently using and/ or where I can find out about that?
Thanks in advance and drumatic greetings from Berlin!
Caught

Ian Williams 02-10-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Bernard Purdie's Gear
 
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Hello,

The "Pretty" plays and sponsors Basix drums.

Check: http://www.basixdrums.net/

Cheers,

caught 02-11-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Bernard Purdie's Gear
 
Thanks and hooray to all silver members ;)

slingerlandfreak 02-11-2009 04:26 PM

Re: Bernard Purdie's Gear
 
Bernard was Slingerland endorser, you can still see on the www.repercussions.org his Slingerland tour set to sell

Spanishpause 06-11-2009 02:01 AM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
See Bernard Purdie LIVE in an intimate setting. Only 60 lucky folks max at a "Living Room" concert coming up in New Hope, PA on July 26, 2009.

$20_BYOB. All proceeds to the musicians.

For details, visit www.myspace.com/forthemusiconly

ALSO:

3/30/09 NY Times article w/ video & audio of Purdie playing & speaking: A Signature Shuffle Enjoys a New Life:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/th...ed=1&ref=music

Finally, Happy Birthday Bernard (tomorrow 6/11/09)

Loui 06-12-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
I love this solo, is full of groove!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQ08V37g8c


And what about that Beatles thing? Does he need to lie that much?

beatboy21212 06-30-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Does anybody know where I can get the King Curtis, live at The Fillmore on vinyl? I already tried Ebay.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jXALaMy4o

NatureSounds 10-13-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Thought you guys might like to know about the lost Purdie album that was discovered from 1969. It comes out today with a reissue of his first album Soul Drums. There is a link to the press release below. you can also hear some of the audio clips on amazon.


http://justvinyl.com/greenstreetsass...essrelease.pdf

www.tinyurl.com/souldrums

Funky CrÍpe 03-11-2010 11:14 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
i find it kind of cool that when purdie got a session gig during the 70's and 80's he used to bring in two giant pieces of cardbord with him and put them either sides of the drums. they said,

"YOU DONE IT"

"YOU HIRED PRETTY PURDIE!"

Pollyanna 03-13-2010 01:29 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosphorus (Post 675165)
i find it kind of cool that when purdie got a session gig during the 70's and 80's he used to bring in two giant pieces of cardboard with him and put them either sides of the drums. they said,

"YOU DONE IT"

"YOU HIRED PRETTY PURDIE!"

How amazing it must be to wander through life with that level of confidence. I find that a bit mind-blowing, almost alien.

It surely would play a role in his wonderful playing. At the every least it would put pressure on him to produce. How embarrassing to engage in such a wankfest and do a sucky session!

Spending a day inside BP's head would be quite a ride - you'd never be the same again :)

Funky CrÍpe 03-14-2010 02:57 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 675760)
How amazing it must be to wander through life with that level of confidence. I find that a bit mind-blowing, almost alien.

It surely would play a role in his wonderful playing. At the every least it would put pressure on him to produce. How embarrassing to engage in such a wankfest and do a sucky session!

Spending a day inside BP's head would be quite a ride - you'd never be the same again :)

definatly! he was pretty good though, no? :)

Pollyanna 03-14-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosphorus (Post 676064)
definatly! he was pretty good though, no? :)

"Wonderful" was the word I used, Bos. He's a trained player but also such a natural. You can't teach some of the stuff he does.

toddy 03-17-2010 11:26 AM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
this guy needs more love. i mean come on. the shuffle. the guy exuded confidence, almost to the extreme. i try and model myself on him. the guy is a studio god.
i need to get a lesson from him sometime, even just to spend some time and learn the business from him would be amazing.

Strangelove 03-20-2010 03:57 AM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollyanna (Post 676067)
"Wonderful" was the word I used, Bos. He's a trained player but also such a natural. You can't teach some of the stuff he does.

Or "splain it" neither, lol. Bernard is a masterpiece!

thelewmonster 05-18-2010 11:36 PM

Re: Bernard "Pretty" Purdie
 
Oh man, there's no arguing that this man is one of the most influential drummers around. THE SHUFFLE!! I mean come on, no one can groove like that. People have tried but in my opinion no one has really succeeded. I just wrote a blog post on this actually, here's the link

http://rock-drumming.wonderhowto.com...r-all-0114496/

- Lewis


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