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___madworld 07-07-2005 04:47 AM

Joey Jordison
 
dont you think that he would be a lot better without the other two "percussionists" in slipknot?

Dill X 07-07-2005 05:38 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Those other two drummers/ percussionists in Slipknot are mostly there just for novelty. Really what do they do that really contributes the band?

NUTHA JASON 07-07-2005 10:47 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
i've watched a couple of DVDs very carefully and you can't hear them at all. its all little joey and his roaring drums. love the white cymbals.


j

Stu_Strib 07-07-2005 02:41 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
I saw Slipknot at OzFest last year, and they had more than 2 novelty drummers. It seems like 4 or 5 different guys were beating on 50 gallon drums for some reason.

Colin 07-09-2005 08:14 AM

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Eh, Joey's not that great. I saw his solo on that DVD... it got boring after the first minute. All it was was double bass and rolls. All crowd-pleasers.

stagecustom 07-11-2005 08:48 PM

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^^^ true, kinda of like Barker, I thought joey had background in jazz, i would love to see him play some jazz tunes

Sticksman 07-11-2005 10:41 PM

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The song "Danger - Keep Away" at the end of their third album has blues-y/ jazz sounding drums, and he actually does a decent job of it. Other than that, he's just an above-average metal drummer, and not much more.

SpiderPine 07-12-2005 12:20 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Well, my friend had the experience of hanging with joey during a soundcheck, and got to stand beside him while he was playing his kit for the soundcheck. According to him, Joey plays the blast beat stuff...yeah, it works for his music. But he also said that he busts out tons of other things...such as funky grooves. My friend isnt one to glorify things, so I beleive him, and I could see Joey doing that as well. I really enjoy his drumming.

pRoNZ4 07-13-2005 05:21 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ___madworld
dont you think that he would be a lot better without the other two "percussionists" in slipknot?

Slipknot isn't about the individual talent. They use all of the members of their band because they want that sound. The atmosphere at their shows is crazy, and he doesn't use the two other percussionists (Chris and Shaun) in every song. Very often they are there just to accent his double bass grooves.

I think that Joey has enough sense to know to put out an individual CD if he wanted to sound better.

insane drummer 07-13-2005 06:54 AM

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I never did like Slipknot much... Joey's style gets the job done, that is about all I will say. He is a good drummer, I just don't like the style.

kenzo 07-15-2005 08:04 PM

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i love slipknot, and joey jordison is one of the best metal drummer to day, i have seen him live at in denmark, parken. when they was a suport band for MetallicA.. He was realy COOL

Smoky_McPot 07-16-2005 05:54 AM

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Joey is an excellent drummer. Just because his Disasterpiece solo was all crowd pleaser doesnt mean he cant actually play anything else! Also the two percussionists do know how to play drums, listen to The Blister Exists of their latest cd. I saw them at Big Day Out (Australia) and watched them play rudiments on their snares! I mean hey, why knock them? Should there be 3 drumkits in Slipknot?? :P

Anchein Vouivra 07-18-2005 02:56 PM

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I think Joey is the only musician of Slipknot. The rest is just uninteresting. And these guys just spread out real nonsense lyrics full of absurd hatred, this freaks me off much more than any other kind of band (except Nazi Oļ). I mean, how many very young kids are hooked on this.
I also feel that with Slipknot you get insulted a whole show by a guys knowing nothing better than to give you the finger...............Pathetic. Joey is the only piece of highlight in this mess.

medeskisoul 07-18-2005 10:36 PM

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I hope this Joey Thread isn't going to end up like the other one on the last forum.

My two cents:

I like Joey. Super nice guy and he does have chops, just not the most in the world. He isn't the greatest, but he isn't the worst. Bottom line; he gets the job done. he works for Slipnot.

Stu_Strib 07-18-2005 11:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by medeskisoul
I hope this Joey Thread isn't going to end up like the other one on the last forum.

My two cents:

I like Joey. Super nice guy and he does have chops, just not the most in the world. He isn't the greatest, but he isn't the worst. Bottom line; he gets the job done. he works for Slipnot.

So what you are saying is he doesn't deserve the lavish praise he gets for being a gimmicky drummer in a gimmicky band? Oh wait, no , sorry, that's what I'm saying.

;-)

stu

carpediem930 07-19-2005 07:02 AM

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In repsonse to those who say that the other two percussionists don't lend much, it is true they are often for show, but there are certain times where you don't really notice them as they are pounding away on the drums, adding a backing heaviness that can be hard to place. Take the song Surfacing. When the singer is singing the chorus, they are providing a steady beat in the background. Not highly noticeable at first, but the subtlety increases the heaviness of the band. My 2 cents.

thinkintriplets 07-20-2005 02:57 AM

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Joey isnt at all a bad drummer. I think he just gets smashed a lot because he is in a highly publicized band, and a lot of the younger crowd havent had the 'experience' of discovering other durmmers yet.

I mean, if Slipknot is all that you hear and you love it, of course its going to be amazing to you.

My advice to those people who really like metal, and really like Joey is to listen to some MORE metal and some MORE metal drummers! Get a taste before making these calls about him being the BEST metal drummer.

Marc.

LiquidSoul546 07-20-2005 03:02 AM

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yeah, i have a "drummer" friend, hwo used to love joey, till he got into hardcore, and heard francis mark (excellent drummer), now he hates him...but that's just him bein ignorant. and now he likes some underground drummer that is just terrible. so choose wisely before you rave about someone.
peace

melo 07-22-2005 12:32 AM

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haha, my friend is obsessed with him. she showed me this aweosme video where he drums while he and his kit are like spinning around and upsidedown and stuff... freaking crazy man. yeah, i think the other two are just friends they didn't want to leave out of the band. :D

LordQuas 07-23-2005 02:41 PM

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Well, I think he's a very good drummer. At least, he is my favourite drummer. The two percussionists are for setting accents in the music which can't be done by Joey.
I think there are better drummers in the world, but Joey is not only a drummer. He also plays guitar and writes the songs. In this aspect he's one of the best.

XNIRVANAX 07-23-2005 08:23 PM

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lmao i agree with the friends thing like he guys need a job? haha well yeah joey is one of the most respected metal drumerms out there and ibelieve he wonan award for fastest feet in there hometown or maybee another city i forget

LordQuas 07-24-2005 01:42 AM

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He is in the guiness book for fastest drummer, if you can believe wikipedia.de

LordQuas 07-28-2005 12:50 PM

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I think when you talk about Joey, you must see the whole Slipknot thing. This guys do incredible shows and many people only see Slipknot when they talk about Joey. He as a drummer is very good, but not the best. But when you see this whole Slipknot thing and how perfect they work together it's just awesome.

Cornholio 07-29-2005 08:54 PM

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i like very much this drummer, i've seen he last summer in tour with metallica and it was great

darkcherryfade 07-29-2005 08:56 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Wasn't Buddy Rich the first to do the rotating upside-down stage thingy?

Superlow 07-29-2005 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcherryfade
Wasn't Buddy Rich the first to do the rotating upside-down stage thingy?

You are correct.



http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichflying.html

Stu_Strib 07-30-2005 05:12 AM

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WOW! I've ALWAYS considered Buddy Rich the first "Joey Jordison" or "Travis Barker". Let me ellaborate.

First, I don't know enough of his music to say he's the greatest or worst drummer ever, but what I have seen and heard:

1- He was the original flashy drummer (and this upside-down drumming clip takes the cake)
2- He had amazing fast chops
3- He lacked taste from time to time, but was still always really 'cool'
4- He couldn't read music
5- He was always the drummer non-drummers were most impressed with

So I wonder. If drummerworld.com were around 50 years ago, would someone post a thread saying how much "Buddy Rich RULEZ!" heheh (oh man, I kill me sometimes)

stu

finnhiggins 07-30-2005 12:39 PM

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I like some of his stuff. I've never heard him solo so can't comment there, but I had their first CD until I had about 200 CDs stolen a few years back and I recall there being some quite tasty grooves on a few tracks - open/closed hi-hat patterns against quick single bass drum stuff with ghost notes interspersed. I thought that was quite nice for a metal drummer at the time. Can't check now though...

finnhiggins 08-01-2005 07:30 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Well, somebody else mentioned Kenneth Shalk in another so I went off to find my Candiria CD and lo and behold... I actually found my Slipknot CD, not stolen at all. I obviously just never felt the urge to listen to it :)

Most of his metal/double kick/toms stuff is competent but not really that impressive by genre standards. It's certainly nothing like as terrifying as Gene Hoglan on the new Strapping Young Lad album, for example. But I stand by liking some of the stuff he does on his grooves:

There's a bit on "Liberate" (I think? No case, just a CD) at around 0:35 where he breaks out quite a tasty groove with an off-beat hi-hat and lots of alternation between the kick and snare. That would work quite well in a non-metal context, it's got a sort of techno/disco/breakbeat kind of a feel about it which is quite funky. Maybe he should go play dance music instead?

The music really, really sucks though. It's not even as funny as Disturbed, there's no hilarious being-beaten-up-by-his-mother sounds out of the singer. I want a refund...

The_Nameless 08-01-2005 12:20 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
ive heard a few negative things about joey and me personally think he is a very very very good drummer mabye even the best there ever is but allot of people are saying that he isnt very good well to me he is good because he can do triplets with demi semi quavers and i dunno if there is a person that can beat that but to me if he can do that he sounds like the best drummer there is 2 me (atached i have a link to a clip of him doing a drum solo)joey drum solo

Drummer_Boy 08-01-2005 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Nameless
ive heard a few negative things about joey and me personally think he is a very very very good drummer mabye even the best there ever is but allot of people are saying that he isnt very good well to me he is good because he can do triplets with demi semi quavers and i dunno if there is a person that can beat that but to me if he can do that he sounds like the best drummer there is 2 me (atached i have a link to a clip of him doing a drum solo)joey drum solo

Well, first he isn't, and probably never will be the best drummer ever. I personally like him a lot, and he does have one hell of a foot, but calling him the best, no way. About the triplets with demi semi quavers thingy...most people probably couldn't do that. But, that doesn't make him the best. As I like to put it, it makes him different. ;)

Elemental Nausea 08-01-2005 02:26 PM

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I mostly agree with what lord quas said...hardly anyone says joey is the best drummer ever I think, but there are many who say he is the best metal drummer, this is true.Well he is a bit more than a drummer, but many good drummers have skills apart from their drumming, because he plays guitar pretty well and writes a lot of songs. His double bassing is very good, but still there are of course faster drummers today, but he is doing a great job in slipknot, nice fills, creative grooves(e.g. "duality"is pretty cool) and he is surely one of the most important and most influential drummers in modern metal. His performance in "show aspects" is very great as well I think, and what he has built up together with slipknot.
but eventually you cannot call him the best drummer, noone really deserves this title I think, also not the best metal drummer, at least not in technical aspects

NUTHA JASON 08-01-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
great joey poster free in this month's rhythm magazine. also loads of down load festival stuff.

j

silver_one_drummer127 08-02-2005 08:53 PM

Joey Jordison
 
Come on guys you have to tell me what you think of Joey '18 legs' Jordison i person ally think hes one of the best rock drummers of our time with a fantastic strong technique.

Jaymasta 08-02-2005 09:10 PM

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Joey Jordison Is a sick drummer but I think Chris Adler is better you might not have seen him play out of lamb of god but if you ever do It's really impressive I just don't like his choice of cymbals for some reason I hate those cymbals arrgghh...

toteman2 08-03-2005 09:23 AM

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I also am one who also thinks he fits into the band very well...I not really a Slipknot fan at all, but I'll listen here and there...As far as the video goes, countless drummers have been doing those riffs at that speed for ages...Mike Portnoy does that stuff all the time...It was just mostly those hand foot combos over and over...

LordQuas 08-04-2005 09:33 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NUTHA JASON
i've watched a couple of DVDs very carefully and you can't hear them at all. its all little joey and his roaring drums. love the white cymbals.


j


Live you can't hear them properly, but on the albums you really feel them.

finnhiggins 08-07-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by largo61
I would like to see Joey Jordison on a four piece drumset. He thrieves on eight and nine pieces. He needs a large drumset with a double bass. People would have a completely different perception of him if he used a four piece. This would prove just how mediocur he is.

Personally I think he's a lot better when he ditches all the tom crap and just plays kick/snare/hats. He's got quite good co-ordination and can groove when he tries, he just spends too much of his time trying to play like Gene Hoglan when he obviously can't...

LordQuas 08-08-2005 01:38 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by largo61
This is all I hear from Slipknot fans. They say Slipknot is the greatest band ever and Joey Jordison is the greatest drummer ever. He is not even close to the greatest drummer ever. I will as bold as to say he is a mediocore drummer. All he does is tasteless roles and crowd pleasers. A large amount of Slipknot fans are ignorant to the world of drums. And they prefur it that way. They refuse to listen to other drummers or consider another drummer better. He is not the greatest drummer. He is not even the best metal drummer. While he is a fast drummer, that is not the most important part of drums. After all, drummers are timekeepers. Not speed machines. I would like to see Joey Jordison on a four piece drumset. He thrieves on eight and nine pieces. He needs a large drumset with a double bass. People would have a completely different perception of him if he used a four piece. This would prove just how mediocur he is.

He's got the technique. He has practised his drumming a lot and now he can earn the fame for it. Many Slipknot fans are ignorant towards other music and I must say I like Slipknot very much and the main credit they get is for their show. See Slipknot as a whole thing and not the musicians for themselves.
I like Joey, but he is not the best drummer (as I said many times before.....). To me, he is as good as Ahmir Thompson or Chris Pennie. They are all good musicians and great Producers.

Edit: @ largo61: You don't need a great kit to be good, but it gives a good drummer a lot of opportunity's, doesn't it??!

largo61 08-08-2005 04:13 AM

Re: Joey Jordison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordQuas
He's got the technique. He has practised his drumming a lot and now he can earn the fame for it. Many Slipknot fans are ignorant towards other music and I must say I like Slipknot very much and the main credit they get is for their show. See Slipknot as a whole thing and not the musicians for themselves.
I like Joey, but he is not the best drummer (as I said many times before.....). To me, he is as good as Ahmir Thompson or Chris Pennie. They are all good musicians and great Producers.

Edit: @ largo61: You don't need a great kit to be good, but it gives a good drummer a lot of opportunity's, doesn't it??!

What I ment with that is he is using his large set to play a bunch of crowd pleasers. First of all the crowd is amazed at his set. Half the people I hear that says he is great talk at length about how his drumset looks great (which it does). The other half talk about how fast he is on toms. If he scaled down his set he couldn't use the crowd pleasers to such an insane degree. He would be known as a drummer with good funimentals and a decent jazz background. Not the greatest thing to happen to drums( Many slipknot fans think so). This is not however limited to Slipnkot fans. I hear the same with Blink 182 fans(Travis Barker) and Green Day fans (Tre Cool). These are just decent drummers that are concidered great because of their bands emence success.


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