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KCMcC 02-20-2007 03:11 PM

Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
One of two GLARING absences on the "drummers" forum.
(at least it looks that way, I searched "Zig"; "Zigaboo" "Modeliste"; as well as "Modelist"; "Modeleste"; and "Modelest" just to make sure, and got zero hits)

If you like funk,
if you like kicka** rock and roll with wailing guitar, keyboard and even an actual good bass solo,
if you like crazy, every bar different from the last, but every bar keeping the same groove linear-but-not-linear drumming,
then you owe it yourself and to the craft of drumming to check out Zig. I think the best starting point, for pure energy and to hear the full spectrum of all that is Zig, would beUptown Rulers: The Meters Live on The Queen Mary.
Any of the Meters anthologies would be a great second, and also check out some of the New Orleans artists who the Meters backed as a studio band, like Lee Dorsey (immortalized in the Beastie Boys' line "Everything I do is Funky like Lee Dorsey.")

Zigaboo's Own Webpage

Drummerworld's Zig' page

The Meters!

Pocketman 02-20-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
I could not agree more. Zigaboo is a real original and pioneer. The Meters have a double CD retrospect called 'Funkify Your Life' which has some great ensemble playing. Zigaboo sounds nice and loose because the band itself is nice and loose. You can hear every part really well. It's fun and educational.

I got to see him a few years ago at BB King's here in NYC. He sets up right in front of the stage at an angle (COOL!) so you can really see what he's doing. He still sounds great!

If yo can ever go see him live please do. You won't regret it!

fat in the middle 02-20-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Major influence on me, i met him once and he was very cool. I was interested in any written down grooves there may be out there,,,some meters transcriptions?????
The Queen Mary gig was a party for Paul and Linda McCartney. {i think]

http://www.drummerworld.com/mydrumset/mydrumsetdrummers/Paul_Clifford.html

KCMcC 02-20-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fat in the middle (Post 278540)
The Queen Mary gig was a party for Paul and Linda McCartney. {i think]

Indeed it was, and the Meter's weren't the only band. They weren't even the only folks who released a live album recorded that night:

Professor Longhair: Live on the Queen Mary

KCMcC 02-20-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Let me do a little bit of the work for you (these are not screened by the way, just a straight search on youtube and then picking the descriptions that look good)
Give The Meters a chance - Trust us on this one, y'all.

Just Meters:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qpl17Uqs7Bs

w/ Dr. John:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IOyBwrvOKA

w/ Proffessor Longhair:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XNM_jCM4CGk

2005 Reunion:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wBUrFRDShJo

Paul Quin 02-20-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
If you don't just love the Meters then you may have no soul. One of the funkiest and most innovative drummers out there - and the inspiration behind many who have managed to capture that New Orleans sound. With no Zig, there'e no Stanton, Terence Higgins, Arthur Latin and many others.

Paul

Mook 02-20-2007 08:33 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Listen to 'Cissy Strut' - say no more!

Disco Stu 02-23-2007 06:57 AM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
KCMcC, thanks for creating this thread. I started listening to Zigaboo and The Meters only about a year ago, but I have been listening to them often since then. I picked up the aforementioned "Funkify Your Life," and I consider it a fundamental lesson in funk grooves. I don't think I could ever get tired of listening to it. Zigaboo has become one of my favorite drummers and is quickly becoming a major influence on my playing.

KCMcC 02-23-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Yeah, he is, in my opinion one of a handful of the most creative, most supportive and most funky (which in my book = best) drummers to ever pick up a pair of sticks.

The fact that he could play that out there and non-repetitive, but still have it support the song and soloist perfectly is amazing. His playing is so unusual that we mere mortals can only take his DIRECT influence very selectively. It's not that hard to play the patterns he plays (although it IS hard to figure them out), but making them feel right, and keeping them varied - and knowing when to vary them is another thing entirely.

ZIG IS A BAAAAD, BAAAAAAAAAAD, MAN.

khanedeliac 02-23-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Zigaboo is the man, and in fact I would recommend going chronologically thru The Meters albums, starting with the self-titled debut. As Quin said, if you don't dig it, you may have no soul or mojo moving you about.
Can't say anything that hasn't already been said about one of the funkiest. He embodies funk.

What I would like to ask though, is a question regarding his grooves. I have often read about people referring to them as "linear grooves". Excuse my ignorance, but what IS a linear groove?

KCMcC 02-23-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Linear groove generally refers to a 16th note beat in which all notes are played in a "linear" fashion that is, entirely one note to the next, never two at the same time.


so for example (hope these lineup - = Rf, b=bassdrum, s=snare, h=hihat):
-rr-lrrl-rll-lrr
bhhbshhsbhssbshh
1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a


Zigs grooves are seldom truly "linear" because they have more overlap, but they have a similar effect.

KCMcC 02-23-2007 05:09 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
top line=sticking/footing
2nd line=sound being played
3rd line = 16th note count

let me know if that key doesn't make sense, and I probably should have added accent marks. I just made it up, and I don't like the second half of the measure as I tap it out with a fingernail on the desk as a hihat and a hand on the thigh as a snare.

mikeray 03-10-2009 09:54 PM

Re: Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
 
Real nice transcription of the 'Cissy Strut' groove in Stanton Moore's book 'A Modern Approach to New Orleans Drumming'. . .demystified some of Zig's stuff for me. . .


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