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MasterBlaster 03-08-2018 03:58 PM

Lubed Bearing Edge
Would bar soap on the bearing edge help or hurt the seating and tuning of a new head?

MasterBlaster 03-09-2018 03:07 AM

Over 100 views and not one response?

Alrighty then...

IDDrummer 03-09-2018 03:22 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
I would have responded, but the answer would just be, I don't know. lol

MasterBlaster 03-09-2018 03:27 AM

Interesting. Seriously, I don't think it would harm anything... I'm just curious if anyone ever heard of such a thing before.

OldReliable 03-09-2018 04:07 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
Iím in the same boat as IDDrummer; I honestly have no clue what it would do. I do know that in the Ď60s, Hal Blaineís drumtech Rick Faucher used to put saddle soap on his calfskin heads. Iím guessing the soap would make the heads feel a little softer. That was with calf though, so I think it would just make Mylar heads soapy with no benefit.

MasterBlaster 03-09-2018 04:13 AM

I won't be putting it on the head, just a light application to the bearing edge.

toddbishop 03-09-2018 04:13 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
Sorry man, I got to this as soon as I could. You can do that. Some people use paraffin-- like you get at the grocery store for canning. I would use that over soap.

MasterBlaster 03-09-2018 04:15 AM

That sounds even better!

hippy chip 03-09-2018 04:21 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
Are you having a problem with tuning? I can see using soap on the tension rods so they turn smoothly, but bearing edges? Sounds like a bad idea to me.

SYMBOLIC DEATH 03-09-2018 04:33 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
I put parrifin wax on my edges to help the had slide over the bearing edge. I think soap is a bad idea because it would ruin the woody smell of the drum. You dont want to take a head off and be knocked over by Irish spring.

wildbill 03-09-2018 05:02 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
I use this on my edges: http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/...-finishing-wax
Apply and buff by hand.

Not sure if it does anything for seating or tuning.
Probably the main benefit is that it's one of the things I do that makes me feel like I'm taking care of my drums.

I wouldn't use bar soap.

MasterBlaster 03-09-2018 05:04 AM

It's Official!
I'm not gonna use soap.

gconyers 03-09-2018 07:50 PM

Re: It's Official!
On a side note, I see that you're fluent in Irish.

motleyh 03-09-2018 07:56 PM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
Soap is probably too soft to really have a long-term value -- at some point it can get gummy with dust and actually make things worse.

You don't really want a lubricant on edges -- what you really need is to create a very hard, very smooth surface. So paraffin can help, but the ideal would be a hard wax like beeswax or carnauba, polished up to be very smooth.

Woolwich 03-10-2018 01:13 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
I've never done it but I'd heard that running a bar of beeswax around the bearing edge has an effect. And to me beeswax sounds like the kind of thing that you could use on wood without qualms.

MasterBlaster 03-10-2018 07:03 AM

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I was thinking beeswax, too. It's great stuff!

KamaK 03-10-2018 07:24 AM

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I was under the impression that wax is something that you would use for rough or round-over bearing edges to allow the head to tune easily against the high friction. That it was a relic from the era when bearing edges were hit or miss and you had actual calfskin rubbing against the peak and a lamp inside the drum to keep them warm.

I don't think that it's necessary on modern kits these days, and if you do find it necessary, a re-cut of your bearing edges might a better investment than rubbing bar of soap on them.

And why not just use a candle like everyone else?

mike d 03-11-2018 06:27 AM

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There is a product specifically for that (maybe others too). This one does claim to have some advantages over non-drum solutions.
DrumDial Bearing Edge Conditioner.

RVN 03-18-2018 06:57 AM

Re: Lubed Bearing Edge
It seems to me that "lubing" the bearing edges would attract dust and build up dirt to an area that was supposed to be to be clean and dry.

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