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Emmaticus00 03-26-2014 04:14 AM

Head Phones or Gear
 
So guys, I have the option of getting new headphones or getting cymbals/drums.

The headphones I want to get are the V-Moda Crossfade LP's. Does anybody have any experience with them? If so, how were they?

The drums or cymbals I wanted to get were either:
A) Mapex Meridian Birch
B) Sabian AA or XS20 Medium hats or
C) Sabian AA or XS20 Medium ride

Which ones do you think I should get? I need to upgrade both my cymbals and drums, but I love headphones and my current ones are Sol Republic Tracks HD's and they're uncomfortable. I kind of want to get nicer more audiophile headphones.
What would you do in this situation?

ncc 03-26-2014 04:29 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Hmmm -> buying drums & cymbals costs a lot more than phones.

The order to buy is really up to you and your finances. ;-)

As far as phones, don't overlook beyerdynamic dt-770s, which are very refined and very comfortable. And you should be able to find them on sale for around $150.

Dre25 03-26-2014 04:49 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
I'm much more excited about gear than headphones.

If it's just for playing along to music you can get a decent set for less than $100, you don't need amazing drivers or high end, so long as they are loud enough. The actual earmuffs are the important part (comfort and isolation). I have ultraphones for monitoring but when I bought them I didn't have budget restrictions like you, I could live with cheaper headphones.

Headphones feel restrictive for me for long periods and I'd rather wear in ear filters and have he music playing through a speaker (so I can hear the drums clearly).

Brian 03-26-2014 05:26 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
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Originally Posted by ncc (Post 1244527)
Hmmm -> buying drums & cymbals costs a lot more than phones.

The order to buy is really up to you and your finances. ;-)

As far as phones, don't overlook beyerdynamic dt-770s, which are very refined and very comfortable. And you should be able to find them on sale for around $150.

Eh, a hi-end set of cans can go for upwards of several thousand dollars.
I personally like my Audio-Technica M-50s (at least I think that's the model), also around $150. Good sound on a budget.

Aeolian 03-26-2014 05:44 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
True high end headphones like Stax or some such can be expensive. But there's no value in "designer" headphones. I have 3 sets of headphones in my project studio.

Grado SR-80 which are the most natural sounding and give a number of very expensive cans a run for their money. They are completely open even though they go over your ear. They don't block out anything.

AKG K-240 which are semi open. I use these for tracking as they cut some of the sound but I can still hear my drums naturally enough that I don't have to fight the latency in my recording set up and still be able to play as if I weren't wearing cans.

Sony MDR7506. Probably as ubiquitous in studios as Yamaha NS-10s. Actually sound a bit like NS-10s in that they are a taste forward. More like typical studio monitors and makes it easier to hear little things in the background or how much reverb you have on a mix. Also very common in live sound because of the sound and closed back.

Each of these costs around $99. There is no need to spend $200-300+ unless you really feel the need for something like higher end Grados, the aforementioned Beyer Dynamics or some such. Often the designer cans have some extremely hyped and unbalanced frequency response. Beats are horrible in that regard. There are people who have endorsement deals and work with them, but they have to listen to a lot of reference material to learn how to compensate. The couple of other designer phones I've put on at stores have been almost as bad.

Aeolian 03-26-2014 07:05 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Unless "attractive" to you means "has hipster cred", then any pro $99 headphone will give you good sound. Hey, you could start a new trend, walk around with the Sony's and if anyone asks you why you didn't get Beats, tell them this is what the real pro's use. You'll hear more music in the bargain.

Bo Eder 03-26-2014 07:17 AM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Get the gear if you have a choice, and save your lunch money and eventually get a pair of the Sony MDR-7506's. Those are industry standard and you can get a pair for $99. Nice thing too is that they're so ubiquitous in the industry that many places have replacement ear foam pieces to replace them when they wear out - a nice feature extending your investment. They really are that good.

If you want isolation earphones, the GK Ultraphones are Peltor shooter's headphones outfitted with parts from Sony MDR-7506's. But those are $300, and worth it.

Emmaticus00 03-26-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeolian (Post 1244584)
Unless "attractive" to you means "has hipster cred", then any pro $99 headphone will give you good sound. Hey, you could start a new trend, walk around with the Sony's and if anyone asks you why you didn't get Beats, tell them this is what the real pro's use. You'll hear more music in the bargain.

No, I like the V-Modas because they sound good, have great durability, comfortable, priced well, and they look good. See?

Dre25 03-26-2014 05:56 PM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Well you already have headphones and a kit + cymbals.. Of those things you should replace the thing that most needs replacing.

Dunno what more you can expect us to say.

Go on a headphones forum, they'll prob tell you to get the headphones.

Emmaticus00 03-26-2014 06:11 PM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
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Originally Posted by Dre25 (Post 1244682)
Well you already have headphones and a kit + cymbals.. Of those things you should replace the thing that most needs replacing.

Dunno what more you can expect us to say.

Go on a headphones forum, they'll prob tell you to get the headphones.

Ok than. What birch kit would you go for under $700?

Dre25 03-26-2014 06:18 PM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Stage customs are pretty sweet if you're buying new.

Don't think you could buy a bad kit these days but I like the Yamaha hardware.

wildbill 03-26-2014 10:27 PM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
Headphones - I've got a bunch, but like Sony mdr7506 best.

Just got this email for headphones: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/headp...rrencyCode=USD

Good deal on a new birch kit: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCB2FS50HA/

JustJames 03-26-2014 11:17 PM

Re: Headphones vs Gear
 
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Originally Posted by Emmaticus00 (Post 1244675)
No, I like the V-Modas because they sound good, have great durability, comfortable, priced well, and they look good. See?
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/a...1&d=1395847685

Em, they may sound good - I really don't know - but they look like two irons with a headband connecting them.

GRUNTERSDAD 03-27-2014 01:12 AM

Re: Head Phones or Gear
 
I am an old dude and let me tell you, when I buy headphones, and I have a few medium priced sets, how they look on my head is so far at the bottom of the list it would even register. If you want to look cool, buy clothes an be a male model. come on. we are talking drums here not cool. Your drums can look cool, but you don't have to

Emmaticus00 03-27-2014 07:22 AM

Re: Head Phones or Gear
 
I'm not saying that looks are my first priority; it's the sound and functionality. It's nothing against 45 year old men, but I don't want to look like my dad....

JustJames 03-27-2014 09:03 PM

Re: Head Phones or Gear
 
I resemble that remark!

Maybe it's because I'm in your targeted demographic, but I fail to see how headphones chosen for their sound quality can make you look dorky.

And for the same reason, I would rather stab my own eyes out with a drumstick than use headphones that mark me out as a trendy inner-city dwelling, latte drinking, skinny jeans wearing, fixie riding hipster.

ncc 03-27-2014 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJames (Post 1245084)
I resemble that remark!

Maybe it's because I'm in your targeted demographic, but I fail to see how headphones chosen for their sound quality can make you look dorky.

And for the same reason, I would rather stab my own eyes out with a drumstick than use headphones that mark me out as a trendy inner-city dwelling, latte drinking, skinny jeans wearing, fixie riding hipster.

LOL.

Makes me think you listen to 'Good Charlotte' too much. But not on trendy headphones ;-)

JustJames 03-28-2014 01:24 AM

Re: Head Phones or Gear
 
Hell no!

And we've got at least one of the Madden brothers on TV in Australia.

Please take him back.


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