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MaryO 01-04-2014 05:31 AM

Another singing vid...
 
Since I'm not drumming in this one, I thought I would post it in the off-topic lounge. I am sitting at my drums however :) Why? 1 - I can hide; 2 - it's where I'm most comfortable; 3 - it's where my equipment is at...lol. Anyways, don't worry, I haven't given up my drumming it's just that none of my songs where I'm drumming and singing are ready for public consumption yet...but I'm working on it...a lot! It's getting a little easier but still lots of work to do to get comfortable doing both. I'm loving it though and I have to say that doing both has improved my skills somewhat. Singing seems to help my drumming and vice-versa.

In the meantime...this is just one I did tonight. It's a song called Second Chance by Shinedown. Still a little rough around the edges and there's a slight mess up at the end but all-in-all I like where it's headed. Listen if you're so inclined :)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...35970984560062

Magenta 01-04-2014 12:59 PM

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That is VERY good. The song suits you and you sing with conviction - I am massively impressed! Did you use to sing before you ever played drums?

The only thing I would say, Mary, is that while I appreciate you're most comfortable behind your kit, I would like to see you perform. It seems a bit of a waste to have you hidden, frankly.

MaryO 01-04-2014 03:16 PM

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Thanks, Madge. No, I didn't sing before...never thought I could. The boyfriend was the one who said I should try. I find it's a matter of finding the right kind of song to fit my voice. I stay behind the kit mostly because I do want to do both with most songs eventually so I'm usually working on my drumming while singing. Perhaps I'll get out from behind for one or two at some point, though.

Mad About Drums 01-04-2014 03:22 PM

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It's better than the previous clips Mary, as with the drums you keep improving, I liked it.

I also discovered the song... which is nice, some serious drumming in that song, especially the big fill at the end... but you knew that, didn't you :)

MaryO 01-04-2014 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad About Drums (Post 1215462)
It's better than the previous clips Mary, as with the drums you keep improving, I liked it.

I also discovered the song... which is nice, some serious drumming in that song, especially the big fill at the end... but you knew that, didn't you :)

Yep :). And I've been working on the drum part ( especially that tricky little bass line) for what Do You Want From Me. I have both the drumming and singing working...just not together. Lol. Once I get them both going simultaneously, I'll post.

larryace 01-04-2014 05:18 PM

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Mary I like your singing! You have what it takes. I like the sound of your voice, and you have some soul in there! You can really hold a note too. I like your vibrato. You really should keep developing your voice because it's worth doing, you definitely have the raw material and a good feel on top of that. I hear some passion in there. Way 2 go gurl!

brady 01-04-2014 06:18 PM

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Great job, Mary! You have a really nice voice. As Larry said, lots of soul. Keep it up.

Thanks for sharing.

shemp 01-04-2014 07:50 PM

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I'm not qualified to judge anyone on their singing....

It seems that getting singing validation from drummers is analogous to getting drumming validation from singers..while there might be some nice comments, I don't think one is going to get the real constructive criticism one needs...or any feedback that might promote growth

I would put this on a singing forum...or if you have a vocal coach show it to them where you can get some real useful feedback. For instance a vocal coach may tell you that you are a natural singer and that could drive you even harder...or they might tell you where you need improvement and give you some exercises.

This here is just a feel good thing.

BacteriumFendYoke 01-04-2014 08:03 PM

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You're a much better singer than you think you are!

If you're having difficulty with getting your breathing right (in terms of timing) it helps to have a lyric sheet (or sheet music) and making marks at the end of phrases. I used to do this when I was in choirs. In most 'popular' music, the phrasing is straightforward but it definitely helps to get into the habit of knowing where you're going to be taking breaths.

tamadrm 01-04-2014 08:04 PM

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That was really good.You have a singular voice that will only get better.I think taking a few vocal lessons, would really help you develop that voice .You got the goods kid.

Steve B

CCdrummer 01-04-2014 09:25 PM

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I thought that this sounded really good. I know nothing about singing but I know when a voice makes me sit up and pay attention. If this song is any indication I really think you have what it takes to be a lead singer.

MaryO 01-04-2014 09:34 PM

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Wow, thanks for the kind words everyone! I'm not ready to give up my drums for sure but I'm hoping that in looking for a new band this will widen our chances of finding people to play with. I don't want to do lead vocals all of the time but wouldn't mind sharing the duties in a band. I still want to be able to rock out on the drums on a few songs which means no singing for those. We are putting out a new ad this weekend looking for band mates so it's nice to be able to add this skill to our list.

JustJames 01-04-2014 11:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215552)
I'm not qualified to judge anyone on their singing....

It seems that getting singing validation from drummers is analogous to getting drumming validation from singers..while there might be some nice comments, I don't think one is going to get the real constructive criticism one needs...or any feedback that might promote growth

I would put this on a singing forum...or if you have a vocal coach show it to them where you can get some real useful feedback. For instance a vocal coach may tell you that you are a natural singer and that could drive you even harder...or they might tell you where you need improvement and give you some exercises.

This here is just a feel good thing.

Drummers might not be able to tell a singer what to do differently, just as singers might not be able to tell a drummer what to do differently.

But a drummer knows when singing sounds good, just as a singer knows when drumming sounds good (or bad).

On top of that, there are many multi-instrumentalists around here, and almost certainly some suitably qualified singing types.

BacteriumFendYoke 01-05-2014 02:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215552)
I'm not qualified to judge anyone on their singing....

It seems that getting singing validation from drummers is analogous to getting drumming validation from singers..while there might be some nice comments, I don't think one is going to get the real constructive criticism one needs...or any feedback that might promote growth

I would put this on a singing forum...or if you have a vocal coach show it to them where you can get some real useful feedback. For instance a vocal coach may tell you that you are a natural singer and that could drive you even harder...or they might tell you where you need improvement and give you some exercises.

This here is just a feel good thing.

Speak for yourself mate. I was a serious singer for a long time, I'm sure there are plenty of other singers on this board. Mary can post this wherever she wants it without her motivations being questioned.

MaryO 01-05-2014 02:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke (Post 1215663)
Speak for yourself mate. I was a serious singer for a long time, I'm sure there are plenty of other singers on this board. Mary can post this wherever she wants it without her motivations being questioned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJames (Post 1215619)
Drummers might not be able to tell a singer what to do differently, just as singers might not be able to tell a drummer what to do differently.

But a drummer knows when singing sounds good, just as a singer knows when drumming sounds good (or bad).

On top of that, there are many multi-instrumentalists around here, and almost certainly some suitably qualified singing types.

Thank you, fellas :).

shemp 01-05-2014 02:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke (Post 1215663)
Speak for yourself mate. I was a serious singer for a long time, I'm sure there are plenty of other singers on this board. Mary can post this wherever she wants it without her motivations being questioned.

I did speak for myself....and you spoke for yourself, no worries..now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to head over to my favorite guitar forum and post some drumming videos for public consumption and to get some validation and warm fuzzies.....I'm sure someone on there can tell me how I play top heavy and help me out....or maybe they will direct me to a drumming forum.

BacteriumFendYoke 01-05-2014 02:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215672)
I did speak for myself....and you spoke for yourself, no worries..now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to head over to my favorite guitar forum and post some drumming videos for public consumption and to get some validation and warm fuzzies.....I'm sure someone on there can tell me how I play top heavy and help me out....or maybe they will direct me to a drumming forum.

Feel free to stay over there if you like.

shemp 01-05-2014 02:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke (Post 1215674)
Feel free to stay over there if you like.

Typical....when logic surfaces and shines a light on inconsistency, the defenders of inconsistency resort to deflection and emotion. It's ok though, I understand.

BacteriumFendYoke 01-05-2014 02:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215675)
Typical....when logic surfaces and shines a light on inconsistency, the defenders of inconsistency resort to deflection and emotion. It's ok though, I understand.

Oh stop it, you flirt.

MaryO 01-05-2014 02:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215672)
I did speak for myself....and you spoke for yourself, no worries..now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to head over to my favorite guitar forum and post some drumming videos for public consumption and to get some validation and warm fuzzies.....I'm sure someone on there can tell me how I play top heavy and help me out....or maybe they will direct me to a drumming forum.

You know, Shemp, I posted this in the off topic section for a reason. Why is it you feel you have to stir things up all the time? I was willing to give you a chance after the whole GURU/KIS debacle but I see you've come back around to your own troll self. Next time you see a post from me, please do me a favor and ignore it. I'll do the same for you. I'm allowed to post whatever I like within reason. If the moderators don't care, why do you? If you don't like what I have to post and don't have anything constructive to say, then say nothing. I don't mind criticism but mean spirited blather is uncalled for. I've been posting on this forum for 3 years. I'm a drummer trying something new and wanted some feedback from people I trust to be supportive and kindly critical when needed. Nothing more, nothing less.

CCdrummer 01-05-2014 02:46 AM

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If I honestly didn't think it was good I wouldn't have said anything. I have heard quite a few bands over the years so I don't think my opinion is entirely meaningless. It was not just a " warm fuzzy"

shemp 01-05-2014 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryO (Post 1215678)
You know, Shemp, I posted this in the off topic section for a reason. Why is it you feel you have to stir things up all the time? I was willing to give you a chance after the whole GURU/KIS debacle but I see you've come back around to your own troll self. Next time you see a post from me, please do me a favor and ignore it. I'll do the same for you. I'm allowed to post whatever I like within reason. If the moderators don't care, why do you? If you don't like what I have to post and don't have anything constructive to say, then say nothing. I don't mind criticism but mean spirited blather is uncalled for. I've been posting on this forum for 3 years. I'm a drummer trying something new and wanted some feedback from people I trust to be supportive and kindly critical when needed. Nothing more, nothing less.

My initial response was mere guidance. No stirring intended. Please do post whatever you want, but also be prepared to hear from folks that question the intent of a singing video on a drumming forum. It certainly is a reasonable question. And I'm not interested in your second chance or your validation of my opinion.

If you want advice and input on your singing rather than friendly validation and a shot of feel good and attention, go to a vocal coach or singing forum....where you can directly post a singing video and get meaningful feedback.

Mad About Drums 01-05-2014 02:56 AM

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Shemp... this singing thread has its place on this forum, as is Arky's thread about his guitar playing and it's in the correct section of the forum....

...but, the real reason is that we've been giving Mary advice and encouragement since she started drumming about 2 years ago (?) , we've been watching every step and progress on a regular basis, seen her forming her first ever band and playing her first ever gig, so she is our Mary, and her determination and dedication is an example for many of us.

Just very recently, Mary started to play the drums and sing at the same time... and WE told her that she should practice singing on her own (without the drums) to get comfortable, hence this thread to show how much she progressed. Most of us wants her to upload these threads, we'll be worried if she didn't... :)

The whole goal is to sing and play the drums a la Don Henley or Phil Collins...

So this explaining that... I hope you understand the point of this thread, it's in the right forum :):):)

GRUNTERSDAD 01-05-2014 03:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215552)
I'm not qualified to judge anyone on their singing....

It seems that getting singing validation from drummers is analogous to getting drumming validation from singers..while there might be some nice comments, I don't think one is going to get the real constructive criticism one needs...or any feedback that might promote growth

I would put this on a singing forum...or if you have a vocal coach show it to them where you can get some real useful feedback. For instance a vocal coach may tell you that you are a natural singer and that could drive you even harder...or they might tell you where you need improvement and give you some exercises.

This here is just a feel good thing.

The fact is that we drummers are also musicians and if we are in bands then we have the knowledge and the right to express ourselves on singing.The off topic forum is for non drumming related musical threads. whether it is a feel good thing is none of your business I will suggest as one of the Mods, that you check yourself. You have gotten the reputation here as an instigator and a troll and it will cease. If you see a post or thread that you don't like or like the idea of, move on. Continued disrespect to other forum members will not be tolerated. A word to the wise should be sufficient. thank you.

GRUNTERSDAD 01-05-2014 03:08 AM

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Using the Off Topic Lounge
The original purpose of the Off Topic forum was to discuss subjects that were musical in nature but not necessarily drum-related. We have allowed a bit of leeway with this definition, but we have discovered through trial and error what fits here and what doesn't. Please do not discuss extremely trivial matters. Do not post jokes or poetry. Do not discuss politics or religion. Do not post links to “hilarious” videos of stupid people doing stupid things. If you, in your best judgment, create a post or thread that is deleted from this or any other forum topic, understand that we have the final say regarding what is appropriate and what is not. Unfortunately more posts are deleted from this topic than all others combined, and more members are banned based on their actions in this sub-forum. For these reasons, please do not abuse this area of the forum, and save us all the hassle involved in settling disputes that could easily have been avoided in the first place.


this entire post is BS.

My initial response was mere guidance. No stirring intended. Please do post whatever you want, but also be prepared to hear from folks that question the intent of a singing video on a drumming forum. It certainly is a reasonable question. And I'm not interested in your second chance or your validation of my opinion.

If you want advice and input on your singing rather than friendly validation and a shot of feel good and attention, go to a vocal coach or singing forum....where you can directly post a singing video and get meaningful feedback.

shemp 01-05-2014 03:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD (Post 1215685)
The fact is that we drummers are also musicians and if we are in bands then we have the knowledge and the right to express ourselves on singing.The off topic forum is for non drumming related musical threads. whether it is a feel good thing is none of your business I will suggest as one of the Mods, that you check yourself. You have gotten the reputation here as an instigator and a troll and it will cease. If you see a post or thread that you don't like or like the idea of, move on. Continued disrespect to other forum members will not be tolerated. A word to the wise should be sufficient. thank you.

I suggest, then, that you immediately revoke my membership....i reserve the right to say exactly as I please as long as I'm not attacking someone's race, creed, orientation....etc etc.

I have done no such thing....and have been insulted as being a troll, an instigator, etc....which does not bother me, but it does show the pretzel logic that is prevalent here.

What you are now doing is censoring me because some of my opinions are not liked. That's quite infantile and certainly not a tenet of free speech.

Please, with my blessing, I ask you to remove me from this forum and delete all materials and posts I have created herein. Thank you.

GRUNTERSDAD 01-05-2014 03:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1215689)
I suggest, then, that you immediately revoke my membership....i reserve the right to say exactly as I please as long as I'm not attacking someone's race, creed, orientation....etc etc.

I have done no such thing....and have been insulted as being a troll, an instigator, etc....which does not bother me, but it does show the pretzel logic that is prevalent here.

What you are now doing is censoring me because some of my opinions are not liked. That's quite infantile and certainly not a tenet of free speech.

Please, with my blessing, I ask you to remove me from this forum and delete all materials and posts I have created herein. Thank you.

Your request has been granted. Best wishes.

MaryO 01-05-2014 03:23 AM

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Just a quick thank you to those if you who voiced their support. I love that this forum has always been a great place for expressing different views and opinions, but most of all, respect. Thank you moderators for keeping it a great place to come to.

BacteriumFendYoke 01-05-2014 03:29 AM

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I really want to see where you can take this, Mary. Your confidence growing in the way it has done for the last couple of years with drumming and singing is pretty inspirational.

MaryO 01-05-2014 03:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BacteriumFendYoke (Post 1215699)
I really want to see where you can take this, Mary. Your confidence growing in the way it has done for the last couple of years with drumming and singing is pretty inspirational.

I do too. I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying the singing. And when it comes together with the drumming, it's a blast. It has kind of renewed my vigor for drumming, too. I'll keep you informed...I'll definitely want the input!

8Mile 01-05-2014 03:53 AM

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You can really sing, Mary. Did you train as a vocalist or are does this come naturally to you?

No joke, I think you really have something.

CCdrummer 01-05-2014 04:02 AM

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Shemp, we hardly knew ye man.

MaryO 01-05-2014 04:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 8Mile (Post 1215704)
You can really sing, Mary. Did you train as a vocalist or are does this come naturally to you?

No joke, I think you really have something.

Natural, I guess. I've never sang before (other than the shower and car -ha ha). I never thought I could. My boyfriend encouraged me to try. I do have a very limited range and a definite style that works for me. I probably should seek a few lessons to widen my range...just not in the budget right now. But thank you for your encouragement.

opentune 01-05-2014 04:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CCdrummer (Post 1215707)
Shemp, we hardly knew ye man.

umm seriously? really?
When he showed up, I gave him about 2 months, given the tone of his posts.

And on to the OP, nice job.

CCdrummer 01-05-2014 04:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by opentune (Post 1215720)
umm seriously? really?
When he showed up, I gave him about 2 months, given the tone of his posts.

And on to the OP, nice job.

Nah I was just kidding, homage to an old sctv skit

opentune 01-05-2014 05:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CCdrummer (Post 1215725)
Nah I was just kidding, homage to an old sctv skit

Ha, I thought so.
Ya SCTV could do a good skit of this place sometimes.

Anon La Ply 01-05-2014 07:32 AM

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Definitely a natural talent. Onya Mary - almost everyone would like to be a natural singer!

Well well, old Shempy fell on his sword after yet another spell of motive questioning and groupthink accusations. Respect has been the missing piece.

Arky 01-05-2014 08:50 AM

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On topic:
Mary, you have some singing talent! A great foundation already and your voice sounds really pleasing. Also very nice vibrato. To my ears there's some intonation issues but those are minor and happen at some spots, not all the time. And intonation issues is something that does happen with longer term singers, too. So in the end you can be quite confident with where you're at already.

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As for shemp - here's my opinion:
He wasn't trolling. He gave honest advice. Now instead of replying 'Yeah sure, that would be a good idea, I'll do that - why not having my singing be judged on a specific forum' (while I absolutely agree that we do have singers/singing drummers on this forum and ultimately, a musician's ears can tell whether things sound nice or not - singing included) Mary's (subjective) (over)reaction was to call shemp a troll etc - which he isn't IMHO.

Mary, why didn't _you_ just ignore shemp's initial reply and moved on? Would that have been so hard? I don't believe you. I guarantee you you'll grow as a person if you open yourself up to a more objective way of processing info that others are giving you. Shemp gave an opinion, his initial post wasn't trolling or stirring anything up. It was _up to you_ to either react or ignore. You chose to react - you have the right to do so, but a bit more objectiveness (or the attempt thereof) would have been a classy idea - just my humble opinion.

Now some opinions might not be to someone else's perfect liking, but hey, that's what they are - opinions. Not a bad idea to look this term up in a dictionary if you aren't sure what an opinion is. Granted, on a forum opinions have to be expressed in a certain/acceptable way but that's what shemp did.

On shemp in Andy's thread (everybody knows what I mean):
To me we had a similar

I'm sure many forum members agree that _after_ shemp's participation in Andy's thread, shemp built up somewhat of a nice reputation contributing info in many other threads (and a few created by him) across the forum. People started to interact more with him and respect him. And didn't you notice the way he was replying in a consistently controlled and mild way free of harsh expressions, accusations and other crap (that many other members couldn't stay away from)? What does that tell you? The man has good control of what he's saying and the way he's expressing it. But - sometimes his opinion might differ from others. Well wake up, that's natural!

You know what? I haven't seen _one single post_ by him that was aggressive, trolling, stirring things up or whatever. _None!_ If in doubt - go back, reread whatever you want, but _without overreacting_. Why don't you try to embrace different opinions? It's up to _you_ to start a fight or get over it, simply ignore those posts and that's it. 'shemp, you aren't that bad' or something to this effect was what I've been reading in a good number of posts. Frankly, I _never_ had the impression he was a troll. And even in Andy's thread I didn't see the need to ban him at any time. In fact I was wondering why people couldn't embrace a different opinion (expressed in a controlled/reasonable way) and move on. But they fired back, even using some language. That's not nice, folks!

In Andy's thread people (it seemed) were waiting to see shemp being banned. I was thinking all the time: Why? For what reasons? Do we ban people because their view isn't commonly accepted? Would you want to be a member of a forum that bans people for no reason? Can't people open up their eyes and move on, ignoring shemp's opinion? No, obviously they couldn't. It takes a reaction to create a conflict. And honestly, shemp had a marvellous way of consistently replying in a controlled fashion and using _zero_ hard language. Open your eyes - many can learn from him! And please don't misinterpret the absence of admin/moderator posts in the beginning of Andy's thread and the fact that shemp wasn't banned right away when people started saying he should be banned for weakness/lack of resolution on the admins' side. It was because there was no need to react, that's why! Really, I was scratching my head why people were overreacting so badly. I don't want to have people taking up what has been discussed in Andy's thread, but that's what people could have done - moving on, ignoring the opinion of one single member - who changed the world - Drummerworld - by a single/a few posts. But why? Because many members showed strong reactions. Now imagine they would have ignored that man - what would have happened? N o t h i n g.

Personally I regret learning he's been banned (nighttime in Europe when it happened - I just stood up) - not by me for sure. As an admin/mod I won't do anything to restore his account, respecting the opinion of some (probably even many) members of this forum. Personally something tells me to have a few PM's with Bernhard in this matter but I won't do this as 'the forum' seems to have a problem with shemp, not the other way round. I do hope though that the other admins/mods will think this over for themselves and maybe change their view. Let's imagine his account would be restored: Folks, show a tiny bit more respect towards opinions that you might _not_ fully share, grow a tiny bit more as a person and - voila, problem solved! Some stuff is purely mind related. Change your mind (or simply embrace different opinions) and the problem is gone instantly! Does that hurt? In a way - yes, but you'll grow as a person. Not that bad actually.

Just to sum it all up: Anybody else's words don't force anybody to anything. Yet shemp's words had a tremendous effect in Andy's thread, but did shemp force anybody to anything? Please go back to what actually happened. Once you understand that it's up to you to make whatever you're making out of it - if you blow some words up by huge magnitudes you might feel insulted or whatever. If you take those words/an opinion for what it is, you can easily get over it, with zero overreaction.

JustJames 01-05-2014 09:23 AM

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Posting a vid of oneself doing something out of one's comfort zone is a brave thing to do.

So a poster of such a vid - Mary in this case - should not need to deal with unfriendly commentary. For that, there's always YouTube. Does that mean everybody needs to fawn over Mary? Not at all. But the old adage about not saying anything if you don't have anything nice to say fits. Of course a singing forum would be a tougher crowd, but - reading between lines - Mary's act of self-revelation was aimed at a slightly friendly audience.

One of the things that I like about this forum is that it is generally a well-behaved, polite place to interact. If Mary's singing sucked there would have been nothing to see but tumbleweeds rolling by.

One of the things that I don't get about this forum is the weird requesting to be banned when a person decides to cease to be a member. Really? If you don't like it here, or feel that you shouldn't be here, just _ _ _ _ off* and don't let the door smack you in the ass on the way out. It really is that simple.

* Could be sign off, walk off or any other expression you feel fits.

poika 01-05-2014 11:43 AM

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You have a pretty good voice, definitely.
Singing is something that requires practice, practice and more practice, but you are in a really good starting place since your singing voice is pleasing to the ear.
I also don't give out compliments on a friendly basis, mind you. You really have something there that you should keep working on

Now regarding the shemp issue..
I don't see a reason why he should've been banned
.. but it was his own call to request it.

He was not a troll by any means, and he didn't use offensive language, but he did seem to get a kick out of stirring things up with some well timed opinions.
And such opinions as this one here, where drummers should not give advice on singing, were of course just plain ignorant.

Oh, the drama


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