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poika 11-12-2013 08:51 PM

70's Ludwig Vistalites
 
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Here's some pics of my Vistalites up and running.
22x13, 16x16, 13x9. The12x8 is not pictured since it sits on the shell. No use for that one.
The snare is an Acrolite.

I restored this kit last year, it was in pretty bad shape after years of neglect. Not a collector's set by any means, this thing is meant to be played. Hard!

I got an Ambassador on the snare, Vintage Emperors on the toms and a Powerstroke 3 on the bass drum. Ambassador resos all around.



The cymbals in the pic:

-60s New Beats
-Istanbul Mehmet Traditional ride 20"
-Istanbul Mehmet Nostalgia Crash/Ride 21"
-Dream (Bliss?) 20"


I'm starting to really get to know this setup, it's a joy to play and sounds really good!
Looks pretty nice too, though it's definitely not for everyone.

WhoIsTony? 11-12-2013 08:58 PM

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Gorgeous!

simply gorgeous

Redbeard 11-12-2013 09:08 PM

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Looks great! Is the bass really 13" deep?

Bo Eder 11-12-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbeard (Post 1197564)
Looks great! Is the bass really 13" deep?

Couldn't be. Unless Ludwig did a special order back in the 70s.

poika 11-12-2013 11:10 PM

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Thanks for the compliments!

Yes, it is indeed closer to 13" than 14"
Only because it had to go through some very special tender loving care :)

The front of the bass drum had gone through some rough years without a head or a hoop, so it was pretty much busted.
I had to saw off a little to effectively true it.

There was also a crack going almost through the entire shell. Someone had tried fixing it with the wrong kind of glue, so I cleaned that up and got some of that proper stuff.

The bearing edges are still evolving, at the moment I have them at 45 inside with an outside roundover sanded by hand

B_HALF19 11-13-2013 12:25 AM

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Those are beautiful! You did a great job fixing them up!

Bo Eder 11-13-2013 02:43 AM

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Wow, that's a hardcore fix on that bass drum. You are brave - I don't think I would've attempted that myself. I'd just make it worse! Nice job on the repair!

robthetimekeeper 11-13-2013 05:18 AM

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Great job! They came out very nice. What did you use to fix that huge crack in the bass?

poika 11-13-2013 08:06 AM

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Thanks!

I used to be a cabinet builder, so I know my way around some stuff when it comes to tools and fixing things.


On the crack I used this acrylic welding liquid, nasty smelling stuff! I can't remember the name but in the US you got something like Weld-On that does the trick (Weld-On # 3 if I remember correctly). Worked great.

The crack also happened to be on the underside of the bass drum so luckily it's not really visible.

harryconway 11-13-2013 08:17 AM

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Wow. That's a killer repair job you performed.

poika 11-13-2013 11:44 AM

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Thank you!

Here's a couple of before pics of the rack tom. Gotta love that good ole Ludwig QC :)
I need to take some close ups of the new edges the next time I change heads.

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 04:14 AM

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I had some 70s blue vistalites. Need to find some good photos. Here is a bad one with them in the background.

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 04:20 AM

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I still have the catalog. First pic is the finish and the second is the configuration.

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 04:24 AM

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with pics if computer cooperates.

v.zarate 11-14-2013 04:45 AM

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oh man what a repair on that bass drum

i would indeed love to see the bearing edge on the bass drum next time you change your drumhead.

poika 11-14-2013 07:05 AM

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Yea I'll definitely take a pic next time.

Russ, nice one. Looks like your set had concert toms?

The catalog reminds me, I bumped into a matching Vistalite snare a while ago and I tried to talk my way into buying it, with no luck.
It's a shame, since the snare sounded excellent (and obviously the kit would look really cool with the snare)

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 04:26 PM

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I did not like the vistalite snares at the time. BTW crazy big project to fix those drums. If I still had mine and needed that level of work I know I would have done it as well. Those drums meant a lot to me. One of the saddest days of my life when I sold them.

Still looking for some other pics of the kit.

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 04:28 PM

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Poika my 15" and 16" toms did not come with bottom heads and I took them off all of the other toms except the floors. It was a trendy thing to do in the late 70s.

poika 11-14-2013 06:03 PM

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It was funny because I didn't think it would be all that, but the snare I tried sounded surprisingly good. For a while I even considered trying to get them to swap it for my Acro. Maybe I'll bump into one of those another time.

In some scenarios I really like the concert tom sound. They probably wouldnt suit the style and the way I'm playing now.

btw, liking the photoshop on the first pic :)
On a side note, on november 79 I was minus three years old.

drummer-russ 11-14-2013 07:28 PM

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Yes had to get rid of incriminating evidence, I'll leave it unanswered whether said evidence was things or people. You are the same age as my oldest daughter! ugh!

poika 11-19-2013 09:52 PM

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Yeah, might be wise to keep them daughters away from me ;)


I took a quick pic today of how the bearing edges look like now.
Im thinking about maybe rounding it out a bit more and bringing the center of the bearing edge a little bit more towards the inside. We'll see.

drummer-russ 11-22-2013 09:17 PM

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"Yeah, might be wise to keep them daughters away from me ;)"

lol. She is a married mother of two these days. She is her mother's daughter though and obviously her mom fell for a drummer! ;-)

Thanks for the nostagia from these drums. I am going to try to find more old and better pics of my kit.

Muckster 11-22-2013 09:24 PM

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I loved that Blue Vistalite kit in the Ludwig catalog. Never did get it. Maybe some day!

poika 11-24-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drummer-russ (Post 1200317)

Thanks for the nostagia from these drums. I am going to try to find more old and better pics of my kit.

You're daughters are safe, don't worry!

Please, if you do happen to find any more pics make sure to upload them.


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