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milkjam 11-10-2013 02:54 PM

any love for Topper ?
 
Joe Strummer said that a band is only as good as it's drummer.
Joes band, the Clash, were a fantastic band...imho.
Joe said that Topper could play anythying and the Clash were definitely influenced by many styles. i love the Clash. just a great great band.
Nicky "Topper" Headon...super drummer.

milkjam 11-12-2013 04:55 AM

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i'll take that as a no then !

Pocket-full-of-gold 11-12-2013 05:06 AM

Re: any love for Topper ?
 
Mentioned in dispatches here, but all in all, not a lot of discussion about him to be found.
Here's a few previous thoughts: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...=topper+headon

Certainly a cut above the average "punk" drummer of the times. Often forgotten, much like the rest of the band really. Strummer draws all the accolades and the others seems to remain forever in the shadows, which is a shame.

MCM 12-26-2013 01:11 AM

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Killer drummer. Very underrated

denisri 12-26-2013 02:16 AM

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Very talented drummer

Bo Eder 12-26-2013 03:43 AM

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Very talented guy, but I recently read somewhere that he left music altogether and became a chiropractor? True?

AllenS 12-26-2013 10:38 PM

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One of the most underrated drummers ever, IMO.

Always played interesting, musical grooves and fills that were often signature parts of the songs themselves.

viva_nate 12-27-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo Eder (Post 1212055)
Very talented guy, but I recently read somewhere that he left music altogether and became a chiropractor? True?

Is it? From what I've read he was mostly a heroin addict and a drunk and stayed in music for a while to support that. He's worked with Jones recently (w/ Billy Bragg) and in his post-BAD side projects, I believe, and (according to Headon) would've played the Clash's RRHoF induction gig if Strummer hadn't kicked it. Great drummer.

shemp 12-27-2013 03:19 AM

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So what song would one listen to for a good example of his playing....something representative of the good things I'm reading here.

viva_nate 12-27-2013 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shemp (Post 1212359)
So what song would one listen to for a good example of his playing....something representative of the good things I'm reading here.

"Rock the Casbah" is pretty representative, and you hear it everywhere. You can hear him on "Train in Vain," "Should I Stay or Should I Go," "London Calling" which are easy to find. But I'd just buy Combat Rock and London Calling, if you like rock music.

shemp 12-27-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by viva_nate (Post 1212392)
"Rock the Casbah" is pretty representative, and you hear it everywhere. You can hear him on "Train in Vain," "Should I Stay or Should I Go," "London Calling" which are easy to find. But I'd just buy Combat Rock and London Calling, if you like rock music.

Right on....I'm familiar with those songs, not from a drumming point of view though....never paid much attention to it I guess. I'm always looking for new ingredients for the blender so I'm gonna go back and listen to the drums on those. Thanks

edwin.brighty 12-30-2013 09:04 PM

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Listen to the album "give em enough rope", its the best album to hear topper on as the drums are very loud in the mix. The producer on the album didn't like Joe's voice but loved topper's drumming hence why the drums are so upfront. It really is a tremendous rock album with great rock drumming and shows just how accomplished topper was in a hard rock setting. Check out the drumming especially on "Safe european home", "tommy gun" and "guns on the roof". As topper was from a jazz backround he could play with subtlety , listen to the album "Sandinista" to hear topper play jazz, and various latin inspired grooves. Check out the songs "washington bullets", "If music could talk". Topper could also play reggae, I recommend you watch this video and listen to topper playing reggae. He nails it, the feel, tempo, right in the pocket:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4wASz39Fc

He is very underrated imo, could play many styles very well.

shemp 12-30-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by edwin.brighty (Post 1213591)
Listen to the album "give em enough rope", its the best album to hear topper on as the drums are very loud in the mix. The producer on the album didn't like Joe's voice but loved topper's drumming hence why the drums are so upfront. It really is a tremendous rock album with great rock drumming and shows just how accomplished topper was in a hard rock setting. Check out the drumming especially on "Safe european home", "tommy gun" and "guns on the roof". As topper was from a jazz backround he could play with subtlety , listen to the album "Sandinista" to hear topper play jazz, and various latin inspired grooves. Check out the songs "washington bullets", "If music could talk". Topper could also play reggae, I recommend you watch this video and listen to topper playing reggae. He nails it, the feel, tempo, right in the pocket:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga4wASz39Fc

He is very underrated imo, could play many styles very well.

Thats the kind of invested recommendations I was looking for....I'm very familiar with all of the usual suspects when it comes to the Clash...and frankly, I don't care for the band that much...HOWEVER, and this is a big however, my thirst for good drumming knows no boundary so I will listen to things I normally would not if there are some chestnuts to be harvested.

Sounds like there is some harvesting to be done here, so, I'm going to go ahead and investigate the stuff you mentioned. Thanks very much for the informative post

edwin.brighty 12-31-2013 02:04 AM

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Another great track with him on is "groovy times" on Super Black Market Clash. Probably one of my favourites from him and the band, Very tasteful playing, and groovy as hell, love his fills.

trommel 03-16-2014 06:43 AM

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"Clampdown", "Train in Vain", and "Lost in the Supermarket" are some tasty ones.


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