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onedevilsst 11-09-2013 10:36 PM

DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Hi all,

Bit of a first world dilemma, so apologies:

I own the 9000 hihat at the mo, but as you can see from past posts, I'm pretty much about the vintage gear. I bought it for myself as a present, and to match the bass pedal I have. I like it, but by Eco, it's heavy as....

Whilst not gigging very often anymore, I'm playing a lot of jazz and lower register stuff lately, but still get the odd live gig with the old band, which is a bit more raucous, heavy rock.

I want the 6000 gear, it looks great to me, and fits in with my aesthetic. ideally I would keep what I already have, and build the 6000, but that's silly, so I was thinking of selling the 9000 and buying the 6000, going for a good price at the mo, but will it stand up to the rigours of heavy playing? Is it as responsive, or is the gap in price solely down to performance, or is it due to the obviously less metal needed to build a 6000?

Anyone played both and got opinions?

Any help would be ace!

Duck Tape 11-10-2013 04:55 AM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
The 9000 has a cam whereas the 6000 has a regular chain pulling the rod. They will feel different. I'm sure the 6000 will stand up to some abuse.

KarlCrafton 11-12-2013 05:35 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
The stands in the 6000 series are great. I have used them for 3 or 4 years.

I use them (straight stands) for heavy rock, larger cymbals, and for a 24" ride that I crash a lot. No problems.
I use the snare stand for the tom too, no issues with that stand either.

The 6000 hi-hat stand wobbled a LOT though, so I didn't buy one.

If the playing isn't hard, the 6000 hat stand would probably be OK, but, if you are going to be laying into the hats more than say a "medium" heaviness (for pop/rock or something), the 7000 is much more sturdy (but still lighter weight), and feels really good.
It's not "matching" in the legs, but IMO it is a better stand overall for anything over light playing. The tube diams. on the 7000 don't look out of place with the 6000 line stands either (when you get nit-picky, you think about this stuff :-) ).

A flat base stand that does NOT wobble is the Ludwig ATLAS Classic.
15" hats played hard and no wobble, and the spring/footboard feels great. Not a match with the footboard, but the overall look matches, and from 5-10 feet away no one would know the difference--if you want the floor space to look the same.

If you can, try out the 6000 hi-hat stand to see if it's sturdy for you. Otherwise, for a brand match, and good feel, the 7000 is really nice.

onedevilsst 11-12-2013 11:40 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Ah, Karl....

That is exactly what I was after, really appreciate it.

The 9000 went up for sale this evening, so hopefully will get enough off it to get the 6000 (or the 7000, now, of course). And maybe two straight 6000's.

Brand matching never used to matter, but now I'm getting on, and can be bothered to care about stuff like that, I find brand match important.

I do like the Ludwig stuff, but to me it doesn't go with gretsch ( a weird thing I have in my head, that I can't shake..)

Thanks again!

KarlCrafton 11-13-2013 01:27 AM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Yeah, a Gretsch and Ludwig mix I wouldn't do either. DW, or Gibraltar seem "right" with Gretsch though (Gibraltar being part of the whole Gretsch thing now too).

I do dig my ATLAS hardware (great gear to go with with my great Ludwig drums), but I do use the DW stands a lot.

The DW 6000 stands have held up great. I love the tilter/spacer, and the memory locks also.

I sold all my heavy stuff the last couple years, and only kept the flat base stands, and medium weight DW stands (version before they cheaped out on the tilters).

onedevilsst 11-14-2013 01:05 AM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Am glad it's not just me who thinks that bout Ludwig and gretsch.

I bought a 6000 hi hat today, 60 quid, which is bout half the price I could get it new, so we're up so far.
I'll order the cymbal stands from the shop I teach at, they've just started doing DW, so we're on our way. Just need someone to buy the 9000 off me.

Lem0n 11-15-2013 09:36 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
I've got them both. The 9000 sits home for practice and the 6000 is out on tour all the time. I think the 6000 is a fantastic hi-hat stand, and very stable even with my 17" hi-hats and heavy-handed playing.

KarlCrafton 11-15-2013 11:33 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Really? When I tried the 6000 (without cymbals on it), it just wobbled like all get out.
That's what stopped me from buying it.

I will have to check it out with cymbals on it then.
I don't need another hat stand, but, you know....

onedevilsst 11-18-2013 11:46 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
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Got the 6000 on Saturday.

Really love the look, here are the two of them together.
The 9000 is defo gunna sell on eBay, it's just whether it reaches a good price..

KarlCrafton 11-22-2013 05:36 PM

Re: DW 6000 vs DW 9000 hi hat
Does the 6000 feel pretty smooth? Looks can be deceiving, because the chain and pull set up it has looks like it would be "clunky".

I should borrow one from the shop to try out. The ATLAS one I have is great, but having one I could just leave up for the rehearsal kit, and one to take out for gigs would be nice (and it would match the other stands. Yes, OCD :-) ).

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