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AlaskanPipeline 11-07-2013 11:18 PM

Warmest Snare Drum head
 
Been a long time Aquarian user and I still like them for most things, but every single snare head I've tried has too much attack for the sound I'm looking for at the moment. I am open to any brand. Using a coated ambassador right now and it's ALMOST the sound that I want. Any more suggestions?

Bo Eder 11-08-2013 12:11 AM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
You haven't lived until you tried an actual calfskin head. Or, the Remo equivalent of the FiberSkyn might work - it's a bit thicker.

caddywumpus 11-08-2013 12:22 AM

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If my "warm" you mean "dull", (which I'm assuming because the opposite has too much attack) then go for something that softens the attack, like a calf skin head, Coated Emperor, Fibreskyn, or Coated Pinstripe. Or, you can tune the head in the low range to get less snap and more tone.

brady 11-08-2013 12:41 AM

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Have you tried the Modern Vintage heads from Aquarian?

Or maybe even something like the Force Ten, Triple Threat, or Performance II.

The main page of their website has an audio sample of several of their heads. That might help you zero in on a head that you like.

http://www.aquariandrumheads.com/

AlaskanPipeline 11-08-2013 01:03 AM

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Yep, was using the Modern Vintage right before the Ambassador. I use it for my live, loudish jazz applications when I really want some attack and it has the best coating in my opinion for brushes. I found the ambassador to be warmer. I have tried double plies as well but I want to stick to single.

RickP 11-08-2013 01:19 AM

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The Modern Vintage need to get played in a bit and they warm up considerably from the sound of a new head.

If you like the Ambassador, then you will like the Texture coated since you are an Aquarian fan.

dmacc 11-08-2013 01:34 AM

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Fiberskyn might suit you but you need to be prepared for the eventual bubbling issue they are known for. I have used them off and on for the last 10 or so years but sometimes I revert back to the coated G1. Some people feel that they sound too plastic for their tastes.

I really dry out the sound of my Gretsch wooden snares when I use the Fiberskyn with Canopus vintage unplated wires.

What kind of snare?

Shedboyxx 11-08-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RickP (Post 1196399)
The Modern Vintage need to get played in a bit and they warm up considerably from the sound of a new head.

If you like the Ambassador, then you will like the Texture coated since you are an Aquarian fan.

I use a Modern Vintage on one of my snares and it works very well after being on the drum a few days and after some playing.

I'm also interested in hearing the new Modern Vintage II and Deep Vintage II heads, new from Aquarian. I tapped around on an out of the box MV II today and it was pretty cool if you like the warmer sound.

http://www.aquariandrumheads.com/pro...vintage-series

AlaskanPipeline 11-08-2013 07:50 AM

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I had the MV on it for about 6 months. It did warm up a little, but not as much as I like. I've tried the Texture Coated, and the Dejohnette as well. I've heard about the bubbling on the fiberskyn as well. I also know that Remo produces a Skyntone. Does this have the same bubbling effect after a while?

keep it simple 11-08-2013 09:01 AM

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Try cranking the reso head up really high, dropping the batter head tuning right down, slacken the tension screws one full turn either side & both ends of the wires.

dmacc 11-08-2013 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskanPipeline (Post 1196452)
I had the MV on it for about 6 months. It did warm up a little, but not as much as I like. I've tried the Texture Coated, and the Dejohnette as well. I've heard about the bubbling on the fiberskyn as well. I also know that Remo produces a Skyntone. Does this have the same bubbling effect after a while?

I've also tried the MV heads and actually gave them a shot for almost a year, just not the head for me. I've also tried the T.C.'s.

Not sure about Skyntone's and bubbling. The only Remo head I purposely purchase is the Fiberskyn for the snare, which as I say, isn't too often since about 80% of the time I use a coated G1.

Do you have a metal or wood snare?

Winston_Wolf 11-08-2013 12:32 PM

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I don't think the Skyntone will bubble, because I don't think it's a laminated head like the Fiberskyn. The one I have just seems to be a single (textured) ply.

Bonzo_CR 11-08-2013 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskanPipeline (Post 1196377)
Been a long time Aquarian user and I still like them for most things, but every single snare head I've tried has too much attack for the sound I'm looking for at the moment. I am open to any brand. Using a coated ambassador right now and it's ALMOST the sound that I want. Any more suggestions?

Have you tried a coated Emperor yet? That gets my vote. It's like a warmer Ambassador.

drummerjims 11-08-2013 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston_Wolf (Post 1196471)
I don't think the Skyntone will bubble, because I don't think it's a laminated head like the Fiberskyn. The one I have just seems to be a single (textured) ply.

The skyntone does not bubble. I love the Skyntone even though I definitely think it is the end all be all for heads. Not even for me even though it is a current favorite. The skyntone has very little attack without drying out your drum too much. however it is not incredibly warm and is pretty thin.

AlaskanPipeline 11-09-2013 06:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dmacc (Post 1196465)
I've also tried the MV heads and actually gave them a shot for almost a year, just not the head for me. I've also tried the T.C.'s.

Not sure about Skyntone's and bubbling. The only Remo head I purposely purchase is the Fiberskyn for the snare, which as I say, isn't too often since about 80% of the time I use a coated G1.

Do you have a metal or wood snare?

I have both, but the one that I'm working on right now is a ludwig acrolite. Believe it or not, I think it is warmer than my maple one and it is a hell of a lot drier so I don't have to use any dampening in small rooms.

drumming sort of person 11-09-2013 07:53 AM

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Remo Suede (regular Suede, not White Suede or Black Suede).

http://www.remo.com/portal/products/...ml?type=Batter

JesusMySavior 11-22-2013 12:30 PM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
Aquarian heads are pretty warm. Warm and dark.

Some good suggestions here and I'll second the "Fiberskyn". A really mellow head. Also, Suedes have a nice round bottom end to them without sounding whumpy.


Personally, when I think of warm I think of full bodied and the Remo Vintage A fits that bill pretty nicely. That was the first head that came to mind.

Dre25 11-22-2013 12:47 PM

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If by warm you mean ringy, it depends on tuning too but I put a g14 on my snare recently and it made the snare quite ringy. Didn't like it, took it off.

braincramp 11-25-2013 11:45 PM

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I use the Evans HD Genera dry..I bought a snare a couple years ago with one on it and have not bought any other snare head since..it is warm, dry and no muffling needed at all..

AlaskanPipeline 12-02-2013 06:52 AM

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I actually did have a suede on it but it didn't have enough texture for brushwork, so it made it pretty much useless to me.

drumming sort of person 12-03-2013 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskanPipeline (Post 1203074)
I actually did have a suede on it but it didn't have enough texture for brushwork, so it made it pretty much useless to me.

Yes, those heads aren't ideal for brush work, but then again, Tony Williams could play brushes on a black dot, so....

AlaskanPipeline 12-03-2013 11:08 PM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drumming sort of person (Post 1203431)
Yes, those heads aren't ideal for brush work, but then again, Tony Williams could play brushes on a black dot, so....

I'm not Tony Williams haha. I haven't seen him playing brushes on a black dot.

Skulmoski 12-04-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo Eder (Post 1196386)
You haven't lived until you tried an actual calfskin head. Or, the Remo equivalent of the FiberSkyn might work - it's a bit thicker.

Love my Earthtones when I want FAT!

GJS

The Old Hyde 12-04-2013 05:54 PM

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The warmest drumhead is the one Bob Gatzen puts a hair dryer to!

bonzolead 12-04-2013 08:12 PM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
REMO makes their vintage series also that are thicker than modern REMO's as in a vintage emperor is thicker than a typical REMO emperor but I would go coated for sure with whatever head you choose.

good luck,
Bonzolead

SmoothOperator 12-04-2013 08:20 PM

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I like the Evans etched heads. The coated ones always seem to flake off. The etching also seems to have more of a sonorous quality when played with sticks.

radman 12-05-2013 02:07 AM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmacc (Post 1196405)
Fiberskyn might suit you but you need to be prepared for the eventual bubbling issue they are known for. I have used them off and on for the last 10 or so years but sometimes I revert back to the coated G1. Some people feel that they sound too plastic for their tastes.

I really dry out the sound of my Gretsch wooden snares when I use the Fiberskyn with Canopus vintage unplated wires.

What kind of snare?

dmacc,
I've also used Fiberskyn off and on for the past 10 years too. I too switch back and forth between a warm vs open sound (more on mood than for particular gigs/genres.)

My question: How soon does this happen (on average)? How noticeable is it? I'm fairly sure I've had a head on a given snare for over a year a few times and never saw the bubbling issue. Are there other factors - heat, moisture, heavier hitting, etc?

thx!
radman

drumming sort of person 12-05-2013 03:15 AM

Re: Warmest Snare Drum head
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskanPipeline (Post 1203537)
I'm not Tony Williams haha. I haven't seen him playing brushes on a black dot.

http://youtu.be/rAw2f_n0-h0?t=11m6s

stellar92010 12-05-2013 10:22 AM

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Remo Renaissance coated emperors. There is no substitute.

I believe those are the marching snare version originally. They took all the ringing out of all three of my snares. In fact, I bought a Pearl 13x3 brass piccolo snare and it sounds killer with a Renaissance Coated Emperor on it. And, it did exactly that--'warmed up' the sound of that little brass snare, just perfect.

Anyway that is MY preference. But if you keep this thread going long enough I'm sure you will get recommended every snare batter head ever made.


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